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Bustacap: it won the players voice award, it didnt "win the game awards". also it only won because a lot of tlou2 haters rallied together to vote for ghost of tsushima instead. tlou2 was ahead by 8-9% for hours when suddenly ghost overtook it in a very short amount of time (after 4chan and other posts popped up after a neil druckman tweet). so in the end its kind of an empty win for ghost, sucks for the devs

obvious troll is obvious
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Orkhepaj: I think most of us don't care about some clearly biased journos opinions.
So for me, if players voted it the best game of the year, it won the best game of the year award.
I don't care about 4chan or twitter mobs.
GoT got :P more votes meaning more people wanted it to win than TLOU2 that's all.
And how is this an empty win? and why does it sucks for the devs?:O I clearly cant see it.
you dont care what "biased" journalists think but instead what obviously biased players think, k. guess a 0/10 "review" is more valid to you than someones opinion whos professionally reviewed games for many years, sometimes decades even. you dont care because a game you would like to play won/a game you dislike even though youve never played it lost, thats all
Should have gone to Cyberpunk
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Orkhepaj: I think most of us don't care about some clearly biased journos opinions.
So for me, if players voted it the best game of the year, it won the best game of the year award.
I don't care about 4chan or twitter mobs.
GoT got :P more votes meaning more people wanted it to win than TLOU2 that's all.
And how is this an empty win? and why does it sucks for the devs?:O I clearly cant see it.
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Bustacap: you dont care what "biased" journalists think but instead what obviously biased players think, k. guess a 0/10 "review" is more valid to you than someones opinion whos professionally reviewed games for many years, sometimes decades even. you dont care because a game you would like to play won/a game you dislike even though youve never played it lost, thats all
Sorry i hurted your feelings with my opinion , it was not intentional.

Yup i don't care about journalists they are not professional at all.
Just read the topic about gogers' opinion of mainstream review sites, it has plenty of reasons why I don't like these journos.
How can I take them seriously when they review genres they don't even like. Some of them even hate gaming and push their agendas with downrating games that don't share that agenda. Also, they are so biased to companies they get the extras from, somehow bad games get good scores after these journos got invited to a game preview party...
You took out one player review from the stack, for every 0/10 there is a 10/10 with 0,2h played time. But in the average
these are nearly negligible.
Hope this cleared out my opinion.

Btw 2nd place is still good, it means it is a very good game just not the best one this year.
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GeraltOfRivia_PL: Should have gone to Cyberpunk
probably next year :P
Post edited December 09, 2020 by Orkhepaj
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Bustacap: it won the players voice award, it didnt "win the game awards". also it only won because a lot of tlou2 haters rallied together to vote for ghost of tsushima instead. tlou2 was ahead by 8-9% for hours when suddenly ghost overtook it in a very short amount of time (after 4chan and other posts popped up after a neil druckman tweet). so in the end its kind of an empty win for ghost, sucks for the devs
What counts as a fulfilling win then? Did they stuff the vote or actually rally people? If the former (and anyone can stuff the vote), how is it meaningful at all (no matter which game's fans were better at it)? If the latter, why shouldn't people vote for the better game?

(I for one am glad misogynist garbage didn't win.)

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Bustacap: you dont care what "biased" journalists think but instead what obviously biased players think, k.
Ok this is gold. Players are biased? Players don't get to decide if the game is good? Whoa dude. Lay off the substances.

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Bustacap: someones opinion whos professionally reviewed games for many years, sometimes decades even
I've been calling this garbage out for years now. Consumers' right to evaluate the product, to an opinion on their own experience, is being eroded by this borderline schizophrenia. I don't mean "to publicize an opinion", but to have one in the first place. Is the game good? "Uh, I personally hated it, but other people did not, so I think it's a 7/10". What is "hated" then if not your opinion?

Rewording the above for clarity:
"It's trash, but my cult demands I follow the leader, so I will say it's a 7/10."

And the scary part that for the majority of people, the cult is fictional. No one cares about what you think except your friends, who want to know what you really thought, but you're parroting the words of a fat eunuch instead. Why?
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Bustacap: it won the players voice award, it didnt "win the game awards". also it only won because a lot of tlou2 haters rallied together to vote for ghost of tsushima instead. tlou2 was ahead by 8-9% for hours when suddenly ghost overtook it in a very short amount of time (after 4chan and other posts popped up after a neil druckman tweet). so in the end its kind of an empty win for ghost, sucks for the devs
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Starmaker: What counts as a fulfilling win then? Did they stuff the vote or actually rally people? If the former (and anyone can stuff the vote), how is it meaningful at all (no matter which game's fans were better at it)? If the latter, why shouldn't people vote for the better game?

(I for one am glad misogynist garbage didn't win.)

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Bustacap: you dont care what "biased" journalists think but instead what obviously biased players think, k.
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Starmaker: Ok this is gold. Players are biased? Players don't get to decide if the game is good? Whoa dude. Lay off the substances.

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Bustacap: someones opinion whos professionally reviewed games for many years, sometimes decades even
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Starmaker: I've been calling this garbage out for years now. Consumers' right to evaluate the product, to an opinion on their own experience, is being eroded by this borderline schizophrenia. I don't mean "to publicize an opinion", but to have one in the first place. Is the game good? "Uh, I personally hated it, but other people did not, so I think it's a 7/10". What is "hated" then if not your opinion?

Rewording the above for clarity:
"It's trash, but my cult demands I follow the leader, so I will say it's a 7/10."

And the scary part that for the majority of people, the cult is fictional. No one cares about what you think except your friends, who want to know what you really thought, but you're parroting the words of a fat eunuch instead. Why?
players are biased, yes. "oh this game has a gay character in it? WORST STORY AND GAME EVER, 0/10 !1!"
it says a lot that some people here value the opinion of "SJW", "WOKE" and "AGENDA" screaming trolls more than that of people who can actually articulate their views. but no, those people are obviously bought off, "there is no other possibility that they can like a game i objectively gave a 0/10"
I would like that this Samurai version of Middle-Earth - Shadow Of Mordor comes on Gog.
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Bustacap: it won the players voice award, it didnt "win the game awards". also it only won because a lot of tlou2 haters rallied together to vote for ghost of tsushima instead. tlou2 was ahead by 8-9% for hours when suddenly ghost overtook it in a very short amount of time (after 4chan and other posts popped up after a neil druckman tweet). so in the end its kind of an empty win for ghost, sucks for the devs

obvious troll is obvious
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Orkhepaj: I think most of us don't care about some clearly biased journos opinions.
So for me, if players voted it the best game of the year, it won the best game of the year award.
I don't care about 4chan or twitter mobs.
GoT got :P more votes meaning more people wanted it to win than TLOU2 that's all.
And how is this an empty win? and why does it sucks for the devs?:O I clearly cant see it.
I agree with this, the true winner should be the one chosen by player not the one chosen by peoples who will obviously give the price to the one THEY want to be the winner and not to the one who deserve it.
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GeraltOfRivia_PL: Should have gone to Cyberpunk
How could it have possibly gone to Cyberpunk when the voting closed before Cyberpunk was even released? That would have just been the ultimate in hype driving votes. I haven't played either of the games in the running, but now that I have been playing Cyberpunk I would have a hard time believing that they could hold a candle to Cyberpunk, but things are separated in these categories by dates of release, so I think it is being done appropriately. I also can't retroactively go back and say another game would have won from a previous year as well. Let's keep release years separate.