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HI there

I reached this site because i made a google search for open source games.

Basically im a student at Uni and for my major project i wish to work on an open source game and replace the audio and music.
My question is can i do this with Deux Ex game? Its titled as open source- i just want to know if this will be possible before i buy the game.

Thank you for any assistance you can give.

Jason
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LOSTSOUNDZ: HI there

I reached this site because i made a google search for open source games.

Basically im a student at Uni and for my major project i wish to work on an open source game and replace the audio and music.
My question is can i do this with Deux Ex game? Its titled as open source- i just want to know if this will be possible before i buy the game.

Thank you for any assistance you can give.

Jason
Open source means the original developer provided the code for the program deliberately and with a license that it could be used to do with what is permitted in the license. This is not however what you are talking about which is modding. Ie modding out the original assets and in the new assets you create. As far as I am aware deus ex is not open source, and you would also need to be careful as they are still actively creating new content in that franchise.

Maybe provide some more clarification. On what you want to do, or check out nexusmods or moddb, a fair few games provide map editors and such like to aid in use content, so long as your not selling or using the company assets. Check the licenses for what you can or cannot do.

Just to add there are a lot of engines out there:
http://cubeengine.com
For fps for instance. Unity engine is pretty simple.
Post edited September 22, 2017 by nightcraw1er.488
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LOSTSOUNDZ: ...
No, unfortunately you can't, because none of GOG's games are distributed under any Open Source or Creative Commons licence, but under GOG's user agreement. They clearly state, that any GOG content is to be used personally only, no matter if any game offered here is open source elsewhere. GOG also doesn't offer any source code either, btw.
Post edited September 22, 2017 by DeMignon
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LOSTSOUNDZ: HI there

I reached this site because i made a google search for open source games.

Basically im a student at Uni and for my major project i wish to work on an open source game and replace the audio and music.
My question is can i do this with Deux Ex game? Its titled as open source- i just want to know if this will be possible before i buy the game.

Thank you for any assistance you can give.

Jason
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nightcraw1er.488: Open source means the original developer provided the code for the program deliberately and with a license that it could be used to do with what is permitted in the license. This is not however what you are talking about which is modding. Ie modding out the original assets and in the new assets you create. As far as I am aware deus ex is not open source, and you would also need to be careful as they are still actively creating new content in that franchise.

Maybe provide some more clarification. On what you want to do, or check out nexusmods or moddb, a fair few games provide map editors and such like to aid in use content, so long as your not selling or using the company assets. Check the licenses for what you can or cannot do.

Just to add there are a lot of engines out there:
http://cubeengine.com
For fps for instance. Unity engine is pretty simple.
Hi thank you for your reply this is not a commercial enterprise and is for a university project.
I would basically like to swop out the audio and music for a game and use that for my portfolio.
It would need to be on a mac and if possible have a futuristic feel.
I wonder if this assumption is why certain Devs refer to GOG as a pirate site, not to mention a lot of people in the Steam forums.
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DeMignon: No, unfortunately you can't, because none of GOG's games are distributed under any Open Source or Creative Commons licence, but under GOG's user agreement. They clearly state, that any GOG content is to be used personally only, no matter if any game offered here is open source elsewhere. GOG also doesn't offer any source code either, btw.
Not quite true.

Quake 1-3 and Doom 1-3 too.
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tinyE: I wonder if this assumption is why certain Devs refer to GOG as a pirate site, not to mention a lot of people in the Steam forums.
I always thought it was because GOG had a disproportionate amount of piratey games.
Post edited September 22, 2017 by _ChaosFox_
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DeMignon: No, unfortunately you can't, because none of GOG's games are distributed under any Open Source or Creative Commons licence, but under GOG's user agreement. They clearly state, that any GOG content is to be used personally only, no matter if any game offered here is open source elsewhere. GOG also doesn't offer any source code either, btw.
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_ChaosFox_: Not quite true.

Quake 1-3 and Doom 1-3 too.
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tinyE: I wonder if this assumption is why certain Devs refer to GOG as a pirate site, not to mention a lot of people in the Steam forums.
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_ChaosFox_: I always thought it was because GOG had a disproportionate amount of piratey games.
XD
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nightcraw1er.488: Open source means the original developer provided the code for the program deliberately and with a license that it could be used to do with what is permitted in the license. This is not however what you are talking about which is modding. Ie modding out the original assets and in the new assets you create. As far as I am aware deus ex is not open source, and you would also need to be careful as they are still actively creating new content in that franchise.

Maybe provide some more clarification. On what you want to do, or check out nexusmods or moddb, a fair few games provide map editors and such like to aid in use content, so long as your not selling or using the company assets. Check the licenses for what you can or cannot do.

Just to add there are a lot of engines out there:
http://cubeengine.com
For fps for instance. Unity engine is pretty simple.
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LOSTSOUNDZ: Hi thank you for your reply this is not a commercial enterprise and is for a university project.
I would basically like to swop out the audio and music for a game and use that for my portfolio.
It would need to be on a mac and if possible have a futuristic feel.
Unity engine was originally mac only, and has an asset store. I would start there. Then you can search for 3D engine for mac, there are loads of cross platform.
To mod an existing engine you would need to know file formats, possibly compressed, possible with drm attached.
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DeMignon: No, unfortunately you can't, because none of GOG's games are distributed under any Open Source or Creative Commons licence, but under GOG's user agreement. They clearly state, that any GOG content is to be used personally only, no matter if any game offered here is open source elsewhere. GOG also doesn't offer any source code either, btw.
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_ChaosFox_: Not quite true.
You should elaborate your posts a bit more than this.

Warsow for example is generally Open Source, but GOG doesn't include the Source Code. You are using the game under GOG's user agreement, when you get it here. For example the installer itself, like all of GOG's installers clearly states "© 2015 GOG Ltd. All rights reserved." So even if the devs allow reusing the source code, you can't distribute any of GOG's contents other than allowed by their UA. Further, let's take a closer look into Warsow's EULA to get back to OP's question:
Code is under GPL license, this means you can get all our source code, study it and reuse it as soon as you keep it open and give back to us your changes.

All artwork, musics, dialogues, stories, names, 3d models, etc... are under a proprietary license. This means you cannot reuse those in any way. If you plan to create another game based on our source code, remember you will have to redo all art,music,models,stories,etc...
Now, what exactly was your point?
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LOSTSOUNDZ: Its titled as open source
Question, where is it titled as open source?
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DeMignon: You should elaborate your posts a bit more than this.

Warsow for example is generally Open Source, but GOG doesn't include the Source Code. You are using the game under GOG's user agreement, when you get it here. For example the installer itself, like all of GOG's installers clearly states "© 2015 GOG Ltd. All rights reserved." So even if the devs allow reusing the source code, you can't distribute any of GOG's contents other than allowed by their UA. Further, let's take a closer look into Warsow's EULA to get back to OP's question: Now, what exactly was your point?
Point is that the OP is looking for an open source game that he/she can use to replace the assets in for a university project. So regardless of the licence in question, it's educational so it falls under fair use.

As far as I can tell, GOG provides a link to the source code in the archive. Whether the lack of a link on the website is a violation is down to interpretation. The game's contents are not the property of GOG, only the installer, which is not what the OP is looking to dissect. Whatever results from the project, the installer won't be part of it. Warsow's engine is QFusion, a derivative of the id Tech 2 engine and derived on the basis of the GNU General Public Licence. Ergo, QFusion is bound by the GPL and any re-distribution of the game binaries is bound by the GPL likewise. The assets are under a Creative Commons licence (CC-SA-BY-4.0), so even if the OP chooses to use Warsow assets and even if it wasn't for educational purposes, it'd still be allowed.

So, what exactly was YOUR point?
Post edited September 22, 2017 by _ChaosFox_
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LOSTSOUNDZ: ...
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DeMignon: No, unfortunately you can't, because none of GOG's games are distributed under any Open Source or Creative Commons licence, but under GOG's user agreement. They clearly state, that any GOG content is to be used personally only, no matter if any game offered here is open source elsewhere. GOG also doesn't offer any source code either, btw.
Conquest: Frontier Wars has the source code included with your purchase. I recall there being at least one other game where GoG includes the source code but I can't remember what it is.
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DeMignon: You should elaborate your posts a bit more than this.

Warsow for example is generally Open Source, but GOG doesn't include the Source Code. You are using the game under GOG's user agreement, when you get it here. For example the installer itself, like all of GOG's installers clearly states "© 2015 GOG Ltd. All rights reserved." So even if the devs allow reusing the source code, you can't distribute any of GOG's contents other than allowed by their UA. Further, let's take a closer look into Warsow's EULA to get back to OP's question: Now, what exactly was your point?
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_ChaosFox_: Point is that the OP is looking for an open source game that he/she can use to replace the assets in for a university project. So regardless of the licence in question, it's educational so it falls under fair use.

As far as I can tell, GOG provides a link to the source code in the archive. Whether the lack of a link on the website is a violation is down to interpretation. The game's contents are not the property of GOG, only the installer, which is not what the OP is looking to dissect. Whatever results from the project, the installer won't be part of it. Warsow's engine is QFusion, a derivative of the id Tech 2 engine and derived on the basis of the GNU General Public Licence. Ergo, QFusion is bound by the GPL and any re-distribution of the game binaries is bound by the GPL likewise. The assets are under a Creative Commons licence (CC-SA-BY-4.0), so even if the OP chooses to use Warsow assets and even if it wasn't for educational purposes, it'd still be allowed.

So, what exactly was YOUR point?
Thank you for your answer and the link although why your asking what my point was i have no idea.
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LOSTSOUNDZ: Its titled as open source
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JMich: Question, where is it titled as open source?
The title on the list of games was open source/mac friendly games of which Deus x was one
Post edited September 22, 2017 by LOSTSOUNDZ
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LOSTSOUNDZ: The title on the list of games was open source/mac friendly games of which Deus x was one
Ah, a user gogmix. Seems like Deus Ex is in the Mac Friendly games, not the Open Source ones.
That does solve my question, thank you.
Is there actually a list of open source games on here?