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StingingVelvet: Main argument in this arena that makes sense to me is that since Windows has DRM, any game you need Windows for technically has DRM to some degree.
True, though for all the faults of W10 it's surprisingly less hostile than previous versions of Windows for "what happens 30 days after installing if I never activate" negative effects:-

XP : Shows a login dialog box telling you to activate now. If you click don't activate it will forcibly shut down rendering the whole OS completely unusable.

Vista : Reduced Functionality Mode + can't access Personalization page. Aggressive nag screens. Can't update. Can't use Bitlocker / built-in games. Forcibly logs you out after 1hr, every hour.

W7 : Permanent watermark on desktop + can't access Personalization page. Hourly nag screens. Can't update.

W8 : Permanent watermark on desktop + can't access Personalization page. Nag screen every 6 hours. No actual restriction on usage.

W10 : Permanent watermark on desktop + can't access Personalization page. Occasional nag screen (fewer than W8). No actual restriction on usage.

So as far as running offline without ever activating goes, Windows has gradually become less hostile over time to the point it's no longer the "blocker" it once was.
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StingingVelvet: Main argument in this arena that makes sense to me is that since Windows has DRM, any game you need Windows for technically has DRM to some degree.
The games don't depend on the OS DRM though.

So, for instance, XP-era games work just fine on a cracked Windows XP that doesn't need separate activation in order to be usable. Similarly, those games can usually be made work outside of real XP as well, like in Linux WINE.

While that does mean that in order to play those games, the "OS DRM" has to be somehow circumvented (either cracking it, or using an alternative platform to run the game), that is still a far cry from having to crack the DRM one by one on each and every game.
Post edited November 16, 2020 by timppu
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My brain is DRM and because it got slammed very hard all the codes are scrambled and I can't access that information anymore I mean the info is still sitting there wasting valuable brain space but it's all Corrupted as well as the access / activation codes being corrupted too!

I wish brain imaging software was available before I got physical brain damage of any kind!

then I could REMOVE my shitty brain and use the hardware (as well as MANY backups on newer hardware) with some type of body mod Cyberpunk style!
Post edited November 16, 2020 by fr33kSh0w2012
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I'm not nearly drunk enough to participate in this...errm, 'discussion'.
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NuffCatnip: I'm not nearly drunk enough to participate in this...errm, 'discussion'.
Being drunk is DRM!
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To all: I believe what the OP meant is that many things in life are restrictions.....just like DRM is a restriction in various ways.

If that is what OP meant, that I would tend to agree....many things in life do act like restrictions(DRM being one of them).

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Tauto-Post#10:
BS. I have all OS's on discs and most games on discs, so your assumption is exactly that an unfounded assumption. EOD.
Those discs will degrade over time, and even if you constantly back them up we (humanity) could some day run out of hardware that is capable of running them
Post edited November 16, 2020 by GamesRater
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GamesRater: To all: I believe what the OP meant is that many things in life are restrictions.....just like DRM is a restriction in various ways.
Yes, but DRM isn't just any restriction (and conversely, just any restriction isn't DRM). So if you stop abusing the term and rephrase the original question in terms of what you think the OP meant, then the question is "aren't restrictions restrictions?"
Post edited November 16, 2020 by clarry
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clarry: Yes, but DRM isn't just any restriction. So if you stop abusing the term and rephrase the original question in terms of what you think the OP meant, then the question is "aren't restrictions restrictions?"
Eh, from reading the OP's posts it seems he isn't good at getting his point across....still, sometimes they have some (imo) half decent points(if you can pick them out, that is) and/or their threads can sometimes lead to interesting discussions.

(Of course some of them are ones we've had already on these forums, but I feel that sometimes it's fun to talk about such topics again every now and then)
Post edited November 16, 2020 by GamesRater
DRM is when you can't use the software you own without constantly confirming the fact that you own it (usually via internet). On GOG, at least you can download offline installers and keep them saved somewhere physically (HDD, optical media or flash drives etc) and will never have to come back to GOG or connect to internet or anything else in order to be able to install and use the stuff you paid for. So yeah, in that sense, there's still a clear distinction between DRM and DRM-free, although it is true that GOG is slowly erasing it with some new games (No Man's Sky comes to mind) that may work but limit DRM-free content.
Post edited November 16, 2020 by anzial
Yes, I wanted all matter and energy to move, change and shape itself to my liking with a mere thought, but unfortunately nothing happens unless I use physical means to affect it. It is a limitation, therefore it's DRM.

And even then there's a lot of restriction upon what I am allowed to do. I can't touch a rock and command it to turn into a gold bar. So obviously more DRM. Naturally I should have divine omnipotent powers.

Seriously, this whole topic is bizarre and the only possible replies to it should be sarcastic non-answers. I am surprised anyone even takes any thread started by the OP seriously anymore. (Except the one about game bosses. That was a surprisingly good question.)
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tfishell: yes, let's all die :P
But don't forget the mandatory offline backup before. :P
no, no it is not
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joppo: I can't touch a rock and command it to turn into a gold bar.
That's because you didn't buy the M.i.d.a.s. DLC.
Post edited November 16, 2020 by GamesRater
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AB2012: W10 : Permanent watermark on desktop + can't access Personalization page. Occasional nag screen (fewer than W8). No actual restriction on usage.
That's cool, I didn't know that. I imagine one day we'll rely on retro PCs built to play old games, and a Windows license will still be required for those. Maybe it won't need internet activation though.
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StingingVelvet: I imagine one day we'll rely on retro PCs built to play old games, and a Windows license will still be required for those.
Only if you need to replicate the feeling of "MS Windows like back in the day" authenticity, since there are already open source alternatives that can do that for you without needing any license whatsoever.