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timppu: Online multiplayer (at least the kind of games I play, FPS):
- Competitive in nature, to me it is like going to play football with friends, all I want is to beat the other team.
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teceem: Good comparison! I don't play football with friends... nor am I interested in anything with a competitive nature.
I noticed though most in this thread have been talking about MMORPGs and such, of which I don't have any experience (I don't think playing Diablo online (co-op?) counts). I presume they are less competitive in nature and more about social interactions and other facebook-kind of stuff. If I want to chat online, I come to GOG forums, I don't need a game for that.

Of course even Team Fortress is kinda "social" because you are playing in a team. Many don't care about helping others in the team but just do their own stuff, while others actively try to support others too. Then again the participants usually keep changing from game to game so it is not like most other players become familiar to you, especially as many keep also changing their player name from time to time. And in a way that is fine to me, I don't need to personally know or recognize the other players in the team, as long as they try their best and support each other.

I've been many times thinking that if I had never tried out Quake Team Fortress in the past, it is possible I wouldn't play any online games (because TF games seem to be the only online games that interest me for some reason). I did consider trying out World of Tanks at some point, especially as it is free-to-play too (so i can test it out without any initial investment).
Post edited March 05, 2018 by timppu
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Breja: .... when my actual backlog is down to zero I'll give some of those a shot, but honestly I know it's not true. ...
If you are absolutely sure you'll never actually play them, you can as well ignore them.

What changed about me lately, is that I basically stopped buying my backlog. It's still there, it's a list of games I want to play and have not giving up playing some day although chances are slim to non-existent that I have enough time for it, but instead of buying them now, I trust that they will still be available when I finally come around playing them. Kind of a virtual backlog. It saves me money and still works exactly as the normal backlog.
Only one I tried recently (well last year) was Path of Exile. Its ok, a Diablo like. Great skill system. I didn't however like the fact your so zoomed in on your character, and there were constant lags expected I suppose for a free online only. Shame, its an ok game, and a full version with zoom out would be interesting offline. As it stands though, meh.
I also got a 'backlog' of many games I will never play. Sports games, racing games, most RTS games, pvp games, crapware...
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nightcraw1er.488: Only one I tried recently (well last year) was Path of Exile. Its ok, a Diablo like. Great skill system. I didn't however like the fact your so zoomed in on your character, and there were constant lags expected I suppose for a free online only. Shame, its an ok game, and a full version with zoom out would be interesting offline. As it stands though, meh.
It's been a long while since I played that, and I loved it. I'm actually curious how much has changed since I played those... 3 years ago? 4? But it was essentially a single player game. That's the only reason I played it beginning to end (or what was the end then). I honestly don't even understand why it wasn't just released as a normal, buy-to-play single player game.

I don't remember any issues with lags or extreme zoom. Wasn't it something in your settings? I remember the view being pretty much perfectly normal for any hack'n'slash.
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nightcraw1er.488: Only one I tried recently (well last year) was Path of Exile. Its ok, a Diablo like. Great skill system. I didn't however like the fact your so zoomed in on your character, and there were constant lags expected I suppose for a free online only. Shame, its an ok game, and a full version with zoom out would be interesting offline. As it stands though, meh.
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Breja: It's been a long while since I played that, and I loved it. I'm actually curious how much has changed since I played those... 3 years ago? 4? But it was essentially a single player game. That's the only reason I played it beginning to end (or what was the end then). I honestly don't even understand why it wasn't just released as a normal, buy-to-play single player game.

I don't remember any issues with lags or extreme zoom. Wasn't it something in your settings? I remember the view being pretty much perfectly normal for any hack'n'slash.
Last I heard they massively expanded the campaign (sometime last year I think). I think the idea was that instead of doing the whole Nightmare->Hell Diablo routine which is just the same acts revisited, PoE added something like 8 additional acts.
I want to try it again myself, only problem is last I tried the servers often kicked me. But when inbetween those kicks it ran like a charm.
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Breja: It's been a long while since I played that, and I loved it. I'm actually curious how much has changed since I played those... 3 years ago? 4? But it was essentially a single player game. That's the only reason I played it beginning to end (or what was the end then). I honestly don't even understand why it wasn't just released as a normal, buy-to-play single player game.

I don't remember any issues with lags or extreme zoom. Wasn't it something in your settings? I remember the view being pretty much perfectly normal for any hack'n'slash.
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Matewis: Last I heard they massively expanded the campaign (sometime last year I think). I think the idea was that instead of doing the whole Nightmare->Hell Diablo routine which is just the same acts revisited, PoE added something like 8 additional acts.
Damn. I might actually go back to it. I wonder if my character will still "work" or if I'll have the game was tweaked so much I'd have to respec him. I hate doing that :P
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Matewis: Last I heard they massively expanded the campaign (sometime last year I think). I think the idea was that instead of doing the whole Nightmare->Hell Diablo routine which is just the same acts revisited, PoE added something like 8 additional acts.
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Breja: Damn. I might actually go back to it. I wonder if my character will still "work" or if I'll have the game was tweaked so much I'd have to respec him. I hate doing that :P
Ugh, respec is my middle name in Diablo type games. I'm perpetually dissatisfied with my character. In Diablo 2 at least a big reason was because I somehow didn't know about the skill synergies. I would spend tons of skill points on barbarian bash/frenzy or something, and then out of curiousity put one point in concentrated strike to try it out, and then be stupefied that concentrated strike was so effective with only 1 skillpoint. Queue character restart...
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nightcraw1er.488: Only one I tried recently (well last year) was Path of Exile. Its ok, a Diablo like. Great skill system. I didn't however like the fact your so zoomed in on your character, and there were constant lags expected I suppose for a free online only. Shame, its an ok game, and a full version with zoom out would be interesting offline. As it stands though, meh.
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Breja: It's been a long while since I played that, and I loved it. I'm actually curious how much has changed since I played those... 3 years ago? 4? But it was essentially a single player game. That's the only reason I played it beginning to end (or what was the end then). I honestly don't even understand why it wasn't just released as a normal, buy-to-play single player game.

I don't remember any issues with lags or extreme zoom. Wasn't it something in your settings? I remember the view being pretty much perfectly normal for any hack'n'slash.
Yes, as @Matewis states they added 3 new chapters to the game, although I didn't get into them myself. It is essentially a single player game, there is no need to interact with anyone else, although they do still appear wandering around in the nexus areas. Otherwise yep, just progress along on your own which was good. Lots of lags I found, just fractional pauses every so often, and for a single player experience that was quite annoying. Might have been my setup, but I couldn't find a way to zoom anything. Character was quite large on screen, and I prefer the Grim Dawn where you can zoom out a lot so your character is smaller and you can see more around you, I just found PoE zoom to be restrictive (wouldn't want to have played an archer for instance). All in all though, for a free to play game it is really good with a lot of depth, and if they released it as a full stand alone I would definitely drop some notes on it.
Not really. I mean, I do occasionally think about trying Neverwinter, D&D Online, ESO or other MMOs, because I'm curious about the fantasy worlds, the environment, all the monsters etc. and I'm easily temped by that and the graphics, but at the same time I know perfectly well that this genre just isn't for me and that the games will disappoint and bore me.* I like games to end at some point, preferably in (much) less than 120 hours, I like them on point and not stretching out their content, no grinding, no tedious repetition, and I generally prefer single player experiences, taking my own time instead of having to keep up with a group of out-of-character online players rushing through the games. Another thing that turns me off is the requirement to create new accounts for each of them, as well as the huge downloads. I once downloaded LotR Online when I still had bad broadband connection and it took about a day or so. The next day I tried the game for like an hour at max, got bored and uninstalled it again. I have enough story-oriented single player games in my backlog to last me several lifetimes, so I just don't bother with MMOs.

* I have to admit though, to a certain extent the same applies to Diablo-style hack and slash ARPGs and fantasy-themed strategy games. They lure me in with setting and graphics, but I don't really enjoy the gameplay enough to invest as much time as they require to play. ARPGs often are so simple they get repetitive quickly, and most strategy games are too complicated and slow for my tastes. I usually play a few missions or acts and then lose interest in them.
Post edited March 05, 2018 by Leroux
I actually forced myself to clear my online game backlog in the past year, and decided i'm done wasting my time, at least on MMOs. Nearly everything has degenerated into manipulative garbage. Shamelessly trying to force you into logging in daily and herding you into their ridiculous stores by locking just enough features behind pay walls. And spending as little effort as possible making the games fun or interesting.

In terms of other online games. I do still enjoy CCGs that don't release expansions constantly and the occasional moba. I haven't really been interested in online shooters since 1999.
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MikeMaximus: In terms of other online games. I do still enjoy CCGs that don't release expansions constantly and the occasional moba. I haven't really been interested in online shooters since 1999.
Unfortunately I suck at most CCGs. I like them, I'd love to have at least one that I can play from time to time, but I'm just terrible for some reason. I guess I'm just never quite willing to devote enough time to figure out all the strategies and counter-strategies, synergies between cards etc. I just build a deck I "like" which often has nothing to do with being competative. And online CCGs are pointless if you're bad at them, as the "collectable" part is pointless - collecting real cards can be fun even you suck at the game, but cards that don't actually exist are a total waste of time and money.
Post edited March 05, 2018 by Breja
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Breja: Unfortunately I suck at most CCGs. I like them, I'd love to have at least one that I can play from time to time, but I'm just terrible for some reason. I guess I'm just never quite willing to devote enough time to figure out all the strategies and counter-strategies, synergies between cards etc. I just build a deck I "like" which often has nothing to do with being competative. And online CCGs are pointless if you're bad at them, as the "collectable" part is pointless - collecting real cards can be fun even you suck at the game, but cards that don't actually exist are a total waste of time and money.
I can understand that. The collectible part isn't what hooks me at all, I think digital collectables are pointless in 99% of cases.

I do like building my own decks that aren't really that great, but have some interesting mechanics or cards you don't see used very often. The problem is with at least 75% of other players net decking the current fad, it's not really all that much fun to play anything creative.

I've been playing Gwent mostly. It has it's problems, but it's fairly generous with kegs (packs) and crafting so you can build your card collection without spending too much time or money. And I enjoy the mechanics and card art. Shadowverse is also decent, but they started releasing expansions too often for my tastes and I always felt like I was playing catch up.