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(Inspired by the gigantic "Why is so highly rated" post)

Let me start: I never enjoyed PST. I played for a few hours and decided that I did not enjoy the game. The weird thing is that the I love the whole concept as well as some designs (heard that some windows can serve as portals, not sure if it is true in the game). I do not exactly know why I did not enjoy PST, but I didn't.

Then I found that I do not enjoy ANY of the BlackIsle games (BG is not exactly a BIS game IMO). I love Fallout3 but not the previous two games; I delved into IWD and played a few chapters and then decided that it is not my type of game.

Neither do I enjoy NWN2 and later RPGs like DA, they simply do not have the taste. But I like Bethesda games (although they are also very "boring" in certain aspects) and played many hours of them.

So, what's your story?
Post edited July 31, 2013 by levelworm
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levelworm: (Inspired by the gigantic "Why is so highly rated" post)

Let me start: I never enjoyed PST. I played for a few hours and decided that I did not enjoy the game. The weird thing is that the I love the whole concept as well as some designs (heard that some windows can serve as portals, not sure if it is true in the game). I do not exactly know why I did not enjoy PST, but I didn't.

Then I found that I do not enjoy ANY of the BlackIsle games (BG is not exactly a BIS game IMO). I love Fallout3 but not the previous two games; I delved into IWD and played a few chapters and then decided that it is not my type of game.

Neither do I enjoy NWN2 and later RPGs like DA, they simply do not have the taste. But I like Bethesda games (although they are also very "boring" in certain aspects) and played many hours of them.

So, what's your story?
Ps:T is one for me - tried a few times, never got into it. To be fair I've never made it past the mortuary. I keep meaning to force myself to go farther into it to see if it sticks.

Same thing with Fallout 1, bought it here and tried it twice, but haven't been able to get into it. I like it conceptually, but it hasn't clicked yet. I'll give it a go again though.
I love the Infinity Engine games. But one that I absolutely have no interest in that seems to be on many peoples' "must play" list is Oblivion. I've never played it, but I've seen enough screenies and videos to know it's not something I'm remotely interested in.
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I'm another one that, try as often as I might, I simply cannot get into PS:T. I've heard so many good things about it, and I must have started it at least a dozen times, trying to grasp what it is that makes people laud it so much, but each time I find myself shelving it. I honestly cannot say that there is a single thing that I like about it... nothing. Each to his/her own, I guess.
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levelworm: (Inspired by the gigantic "Why is so highly rated" post)

Let me start: I never enjoyed PST. I played for a few hours and decided that I did not enjoy the game. The weird thing is that the I love the whole concept as well as some designs (heard that some windows can serve as portals, not sure if it is true in the game). I do not exactly know why I did not enjoy PST, but I didn't.

Then I found that I do not enjoy ANY of the BlackIsle games (BG is not exactly a BIS game IMO). I love Fallout3 but not the previous two games; I delved into IWD and played a few chapters and then decided that it is not my type of game.

Neither do I enjoy NWN2 and later RPGs like DA, they simply do not have the taste. But I like Bethesda games (although they are also very "boring" in certain aspects) and played many hours of them.

So, what's your story?
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ncarty97: Ps:T is one for me - tried a few times, never got into it. To be fair I've never made it past the mortuary. I keep meaning to force myself to go farther into it to see if it sticks.

Same thing with Fallout 1, bought it here and tried it twice, but haven't been able to get into it. I like it conceptually, but it hasn't clicked yet. I'll give it a go again though.
I like the music so I did make it out of the mortuary. I did not adventure further though, just did a couple of side quests.
I really didn't click with PST the first time I played it. Just about got out of the mortuary and then stopped at the first tavern.
I've just started another game of it though and it's been better this time. (First time was before I'd played much of BG or IWD and I hadn't gotten to grips with the IE style of play. BG has a nice tutorial section for newbies but PST didn't seem as easy to get into).
I've now had a wander in the first couple of areas, done a side-quest and will be giving it more of a go later. (In between bouts of a BG replay).

I'm also currently on NWN2 - as with the first NWN, I'm finding my enthusiasm for it dwindling. The endless side-quests for the Watch with no apparent end in sight (just do this for us...ok, thanks, now this...great, now this...) soured me a bit but I'm getting through it in small doses. I've heard the other campaigns are better than the OC but I can't muster the enthusiasm to try them until I get through the OC.

Arcanum is another one - I love the style and the setting but the combat and the clunky controls meant I shelved it after a few hours of play. I'll probably give it another try in a while.
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levelworm: Then I found that I do not enjoy ANY of the BlackIsle games (BG is not exactly a BIS game IMO). I love Fallout3 but not the previous two games; I delved into IWD and played a few chapters and then decided that it is not my type of game.

Neither do I enjoy NWN2 and later RPGs like DA, they simply do not have the taste. But I like Bethesda games (although they are also very "boring" in certain aspects) and played many hours of them.
Basically, you enjoyed First-person games, not the top-down ones.

There are very different type of games : BG, Arcanum, Fallout 1&2, the Avernum serie, NWN, etc on one side, and Fallout 3, Gothic, Bethesda games, etc... on the other one. It's hard to compare.

I have more fun in a party based game, because of the tactical fights. Positioning each character according to their skill, the surrounding and the ennemy is fun and interesting (I don't say every game do this tactical thingy well, but when it's well done, I like it. Granted, the fight in Arcanum is awful). I even like some JRPG with good turn based fight.

If it isn't your kind of fun... just stick to what you like ( I personally enjoyed Fallout 3 for a little while, and then all the fights started to bore me, because they were just all the same. So I moved on...)
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levelworm: Then I found that I do not enjoy ANY of the BlackIsle games (BG is not exactly a BIS game IMO). I love Fallout3 but not the previous two games; I delved into IWD and played a few chapters and then decided that it is not my type of game.

Neither do I enjoy NWN2 and later RPGs like DA, they simply do not have the taste. But I like Bethesda games (although they are also very "boring" in certain aspects) and played many hours of them.
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Gabby2: Basically, you enjoyed First-person games, not the top-down ones.

There are very different type of games : BG, Arcanum, Fallout 1&2, the Avernum serie, NWN, etc on one side, and Fallout 3, Gothic, Bethesda games, etc... on the other one. It's hard to compare.

I have more fun in a party based game, because of the tactical fights. Positioning each character according to their skill, the surrounding and the ennemy is fun and interesting (I don't say every game do this tactical thingy well, but when it's well done, I like it. Granted, the fight in Arcanum is awful). I even like some JRPG with good turn based fight.

If it isn't your kind of fun... just stick to what you like ( I personally enjoyed Fallout 3 for a little while, and then all the fights started to bore me, because they were just all the same. So I moved on...)
No, I very much enjoy BG and NWN, and I also enjoy the First-person ones as well. It has nothing to do with perspectives, it is the content that matters a lot. I'm not saying that BIS games are bad games. On the contrary they are excellent games.
PST is a unique game in gaming history, so it's understandable it's not for everybody. I'd recommend to play to a bit after the Mortuary though. The Mortuary is kind of like a tutorial, and only after that doest it start to shine.

Currently playing NWN2, after quickly giving up on NWN1 when I noticed you could only have 1 party member. Soooo many things with NWN2 I find downright annoying, from level design to NPCs to AI and UI. Have finally gotten to Neverwinter city though, and I hear it's supposed to pick up in Act 2. I'll keep trying, if only to get to play Mask of the Betrayer, which is supposed to be the good things about NWN2.

Wasn't a big fan of DAO either. Never finished it. The neverending flow of magically spawning enemies got way too tedious, and the story wasn't exactly great either. So at some point I just stopped playing.

Not played the Fallouts yet, but I look forward to it. Hopefully I like it.
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Pangaea666: PST is a unique game in gaming history, so it's understandable it's not for everybody. I'd recommend to play to a bit after the Mortuary though. The Mortuary is kind of like a tutorial, and only after that doest it start to shine.

Currently playing NWN2, after quickly giving up on NWN1 when I noticed you could only have 1 party member. Soooo many things with NWN2 I find downright annoying, from level design to NPCs to AI and UI. Have finally gotten to Neverwinter city though, and I hear it's supposed to pick up in Act 2. I'll keep trying, if only to get to play Mask of the Betrayer, which is supposed to be the good things about NWN2.

Wasn't a big fan of DAO either. Never finished it. The neverending flow of magically spawning enemies got way too tedious, and the story wasn't exactly great either. So at some point I just stopped playing.

Not played the Fallouts yet, but I look forward to it. Hopefully I like it.
You can have multiple party members in SoU and HotU, restricted to 2/3 I believe. NWN2 is sort of boring to me, not sure where the reason lays though. My most enjoyed DND games are probably BG1/Tosc/2/ToB and NWN/SoU/HotU.
The trend I notice here is that people who don't like a lot of infinity engine games, do not like the combat.
Icewind Dale is 90% combat and in Torment, the combat isn't that great (still like the game a lot, as combat is a miniscule part of the game), there is also a LOT of reading involved, so if that's not your cup of tea in a game, I can understand people not liking it.
Baldur's Gate is on the whole the most rounded game imho, there's something to like for everyone.
I like all infinity engine games, but haven't replayed IWD1+2 as there's not much there except the combat.

NWN1 was a bit dull, but the underdark expansion was pretty good. Same with NWN2; the main campaign was a bit dull and uninspired, while mask of the betrayer was fantastic imho, and one of the best things I've ever played.

That said, I can't get into the older Fallout games, it's just too archaic to me, especially after New Vegas, which combined the modern mechanics of Fallout 3 with the world quality of 1+2.

Also Wing Commander 4; it's so clunky compared to everything else. Even the older x-wing and tie fighter games are so much better gameplay-wise.
Post edited August 03, 2013 by Gromuhl
Arcanum. Loved the character creation and the idea of a "steampunkish" fantasy world, but upon playing the game (I have actually tried to play it several times, each time with a different approach) I felt that the game was underdeveloped, and it could have done with a lot more fine-tuning. Not to mention that the game world just was not how I expected it to be, and after a few tries I just totally lost interest in exploring it, which should have been the main point of the whole thing. And I found Virgil REALLY annoying.
Post edited August 03, 2013 by szablev
I can say that I never again experienced quite the same level of immersion as with Fallout 1. This game was amazing from the beginning until close to the end, where I sadly I could not complete it because it was bugged. When I played Fallout (around 2001) it wasn't quite fresh anymore but the gameplay was a joy.

Fallout 3 is completely lame in comparison. It is just plain boring. I also tried Morrowind and Oblivion and I get the feeling that Bethesda is at fault here. Either you become addicted by the looting mechanism or you won't like a minute of their games because they are essentially heartless. They don't care about story or immersion, they just generate giant maps and fill them with loot.
The only Elder Scrolls-like game I liked so far was New Vegas, although it doesn't come close to F1.
I'll try Skyrim when it is 75% off on Steam but not anytime sooner.

@szablev: I'm still trying to get into Arcanum. I bought it here a while ago because I never played it when it was released and I had the feeling that I missed out on something. But I never really played it.
Post edited August 03, 2013 by wittgenstein