So what are your thoughts about cloud gaming?Most hardcore gamers don’t like the idea(even casuals) but it gets pushed by the media for clicks and that’s why some think it could be a big thing one day.So in general the netflix for games will never exist you still have to buy new games for full price.So i think 2 things can happen:Cloud gaming could be a success and could exist with local gaming or cloud gaming could become a thing of the past after a some time.Are you interested in cloud gaming and if yes or no....why?Im a fan of ownership like many and i want to have access to my files for mods etc so cloud gaming will be a niche thing for me.Cloud gaming can’t replace a gaming computer but for people with less money and casuals it could be a interesting thing.Lg

Got the vaguest idea with 5G we can expect better connections. Guess maybe thats a reason to move beyond broadband? Not sure what you can do with that but with good reliable connections maybe something good will take off.

Very negative ones :) Undoubtedly true...but also, look deeper. Game stores, game publishers (and in many cases game developers too) have a vested interest in KILLING OFF the idea of ownership. Considering that there have been "scandals" in the past where it was discovered companies were influencing sites to put out favorable reviews for games, is it really that far-fetched to think the companies are also looking to sway the voice of the media in the direction that benefits them on a vastly greater scale, with streaming? I disagree...the big companies want "Netflix for gaming" to exist and will try their darndest. Another user pointed out in a different thread how EA abandoned a quality game like Mass Effect to instead put their full efforts trying to prop up a dying slot machine "game". The way I see it, these companies will push as hard as they can on squeezing money from consumers, and streaming will be the ultimate final form of that.

Also, doesn't Nintendo ALREADY have a service for their old games where you have to pay to access them, and cannot just make a one-time payment that would let you own them? And what about ALREADY existing services like GamePass?

The way I see it, companies would need to get people to accept the following ideas for them to then accept streaming:
-online connection to access games
-you pay a recurring fee to play games
-you don't own the game
-not only don't you own the game, it's server side and not even on your system

Mainstream people at large have ALREADY accepted at least the first three of these propositions and have also accepted the fourth to a degree in the case of many online multiplayer games. The decade+ monopoly of Steam being touted AS though it equals PC gaming itself, has ruined things for anyone who would dare want to own games. To a lesser degree, the decade and a half+ of consoles focusing on online multiplayer while killing local multiplayer off (for no good reason) has gone along the same lines.

It has all conditioned people to get used to the idea of needing to be logged in, and not owning. Getting them to accept that they are just streaming from a more powerful computer won't take much effort for them to accept in comparison. And, if the technology isn't quite there with the streaming, the companies will STILL be pushing it, trying to make it the "cool new thing" and relying on most people's herd mentality. Imo they will stop at nothing to get "Netflix for gaming", because everything has been building to this "victory condition" of theirs for generations. While that would be an ideal world for people who like both, I believe it is impossible. When there is this strong of a push against ownership, the interest is in killing off ownership, not maintaining it. If ownership survives, it will be a niche market. Kind of like it already is now, but even smaller. Anyone who likes ownership but checks this stuff out, is really not helping the case for ownership any. That's basically what happened with mobile. It's everywhere. Nowadays, mobile gaming even influences PC and console games, and not a good influence lol.

Sure some companies want to destroy the ownership thing but people aren’t stupid and wont buy their stuff anymore.The future of gaming is to give the player options and not every developer is like ea or ubisoft.Yeah netflix for games isn’t exactly that what people hoped for.New games aren’t in the subscription model or better not every game so it’s different but it’s logical because games aren’t movies.But paying 90 bucks for a collectors edition just to accessing it sounds horrible and funny at the same time.Maybe greedy companies dream this but customers don’t want that so this won’t work how they would like it.Paying full price for local games is fine and i think both can exist so cloud gaming will just be a separate thing or it will fail like i said

I've looked at clouds from both sides now
From up and down and still somehow
I think games should stay offline

I rewrote this for you:

What are your thoughts about no control over the game, the hardware, your user account, your data?

What if every game you had now relied on a server, and if the server goes offline, or they remove the game you can't play it?

What if no matter how good the game and service, all your games require an always-online connection to play, and any interruption may result in a game over? And outrageous cancer rates and death...

Hmmmm.......cloud gaming you say? Renting games at full retail price with ZERO ownership???? Yeah your not going to find much love for that here. Just sayin

As an option for trying out games, I'm curious. I've got a Netflix account and it doesn't keep me from buying movies.

As a replacement for traditional gaming, well, at least I don't buy anything from EA or Ubisoft, really. People forget that most of the games industry isn't as cartoonishly evil as these guys.

Honestly, it'll be years, possibly decades, before the speeds for this reach rural communities, or even suburbs.

What really concerns me about the initial cloud gaming push is that Google is behind it.

Google is infamous for killing off projects that they lose interest in (https://killedbygoogle.com/ is up to 172. 143 of them are services, which cloud gaming would be classed as)

I'd expect my game investments to vanish in a puff of smoke within five years.

Thanks yes that’s true.Games from ea for example i wouldn’t care to own so i would probably stream them and really good games like the witcher for example i want to own but a 1/1 netflix will never exist so i think a one month subscription will also do it to try a game

It is future, but not the close one - for next decade will rule xbox game pass model.

Personally i react to it like my cat to vegetables: "nope nope nope". My backlog and love for retro gaming is getting bigger, don't think I get into cloud gaming at my age

Thing that can change my mind is mmo in cloud - not needing to send world state to every player can crate world's we didn't see before

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It’s not the future it could be a part of the future but it could also fail who knows.Age is just a number so if you are interested go for it.

I can only join the choir here and say that a "service" you pay for and yet still have to pay full price for new games seems like terrible value. Netflix and Amazon Prime offer many movies at a decent price per month. I get enough bang for my buck there. With Stadia the value just isn't there and the fact that it's Google makes it even worse. You can have your account terminated at any point for saying the "wrong" thing in a comment somewhere on the Interwebs. I just don't want that since I want to own my stuff like here on GoG.

Make it good value for money like Netflix and we might boogie.

Forgive me for being a few days behind in the discussion but I have to respond now. My fear is that users won't have the option of owning. That the "options" will be the equivalent of "do you want to stream on Netflix, Prime, or Hulu?".

Look at what happened in the PC gaming market once Steam took hold. The option to really own your games was taken off the table. Suddenly, the option they gave became "buy here, or miss out".

Most people grudingly accepted "buy here" and people like me who proudly chose "miss out" were left in the dust for years. We were and are a total minority.

The same thing will happen with streaming. Stream here, or miss out. It already is happening in many cases (exclusive movies and shows with no physical releases).

It wont happen the same way with steam..... streaming will be just an option(If it suceed and this is not not sure by now).There is a major differnce between steam and streaming and it is haveing access to your files so you can mod it etc and there is a certain ownership feeling with that.Giving the players options is the future of gaming people wont accept it if companies screw consoles completely.I think gamers come together and strike back but it wont happen anyway so no worries