I'd say profanity is better than shit word usage - who gives a fuck about swear words? holy fuck

"you're" not "your", eh?

I don't really watch much animation, that wasn't the point, at all, the point is that you think japanese characters are good, when they all look the same, and that doesn't make any fucking sense to me

ohh mister grammer nazi, escuse me... I'm not talking about the quality of the story... I'm Talking about the ARTISTIC WORK done by hand in many of the Japanese Anime, but then you probably think Budweiser is the Best beer there is for your trailer...

wow, you are just stupid it seems

where does anything I say say anything about the story ? we were talking about the drawing/animation...

and now you've decided to disregard and devalue what I say because I point out you don't know the difference between a couple simple words that a 2nd grader knows (oh and "grammar", not "grammer", seriously, read a book, grow some brains)

anyway, done engaging with your stupid ass

https://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Akira-Movie-featured.jpg

[url=http://sailormoon.wikia.com/wiki/File:Sailor_Moon_Season_III.png]http://sailormoon.wikia.com/wiki/File:Sailor_Moon_Season_III.png[/url]

https://d-nm.ppstatic.pl/k/r/e3/e1/54b9ce2c12b02_o.jpg?1488370137

http://johnguycollick.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/gaohayame.jpg

http://www.theedinburghreporter.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/tale-of-princess-kaguya.jpg

http://www.filmedinether.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/still-graveofthefireflies4.jpg

https://vintagecoats.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/hakujaden-the-tale-of-the-white-serpent-xu-xian-bai-niang-garden-flowers-walk.png

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/82/29/40/822940d20f7c5389c2587bbe66f05549.jpg

and so on and so forth

Stop it guys. I think you are trying to compare two completely different kind of art forms here.

Anime <> Cartoons

Even in anime there exist completely different kind of quality levels and while Akira imo is one of the greatest animes ever made (as is GitS and I'd say every studio Ghibli anime) there also are several animes (mostly series) which do not have that level of detail or quality in their drawigs/characters. Anyway I would not compare either type of it to a US cartoon or to the Amanita artstyle. Of course I would also never compare Amanita artstyle to US cartoons either. And just for the sake of american animation - several really good animated movies from the US do exist as well - different than animes but not on the same level (drawing wise) as let's say Simposon's or Futurama or South Park.

But I do understand what Dejavous wanted to say and imo it's simple. The artstyle does not appeal to him as he prefers to watch more detailed and realistic drawings. Amanita's artstyle is all about phantasy and it often feels surreal. It's a quality of its own form and it really is something special.

@Dejavous: Just a suggestion: before completely giving up on this game maybe visit their web site and try one of their demos of their games and THEN decide if it's your cup of tea or not. I once was skeptic but meanwhile I really appreciate the different, strange, surreal and extremely charming and creative way Amanita do their animations.

Of course even after playing a demo you could still think that this just is not yours but at least then you truly have experienced their style for real and not just through some advertizing clips/pics. The artstyle IS special so I do understand if some people simply cannot relate to it. They have many, many fans (even including Total Biscuit - guess what ;)) and there is a reason for it. But art will always be a subjective thing and there is imo no need to get emotional when some people see art different than others do.

I tried to hold a civil discussion then Drealmer decided to throw profanity and insults if he had not acted like an arse I may have responded better.
I've also looked at Amanita Design website, they do not offer demos, but I admitt some of the art for the backgrounds looks great, it's the npc and main character I don't like visualy.

I did not want to comment on the way the discussion went at all. I clearly saw what went wrong there but sometimes things just spiral out of hand and go their own way even though nobody had the intention for this to happen. I am sure that drealmer did not mean it as mean as it sounded but I am also quite certain that even civil discussions will quickly go down the drain when people are starting to use certain words and accusations that have nothing to do with the matter at hand. The profanity i.e. might just have been his way to show how he was feeling about his arguments. Of course critizising not the content of a post but the way it was written (if you'd do this with my posts you probably would find several wrong things but I am doing the best I can here ;)) is not a good way to get your arguments heard since it probably feels like an insult for the other side and I can understand that as well. In the end however it does not really matter who started what and who is guilty - the discussion and logical arguments will always be the victims.

So all I wanted is to turn this back into a civil discussion by adding some facts to it being a fan of both anime as well as the Amanita artstyle I thought it might help since I am not taking any sides. So why don't we just forget what just happened here? Both of you are on different sides but you should not end up being enemys just because of a few words that came of wrong because of emotions. In real life I would ask both of you to shake hands and be friends again - because it's just not worth it :)
http://amanita-design.net/games/samorost-1.html
http://amanita-design.net/games/samorost-2.html
http://amanita-design.net/games/machinarium.html
http://amanita-design.net/games/botanicula.html


Yes, I am really curious how this new main character is working out in their new game but I hope it's ending up to be pretty cute. I never played a game from them and ended up disappointed so I have much hope that I will like it.

http://amanita-design.net/samorost-2/ play part of the game, demo I guess.

P.S. Samorost is free on their site too.
http://amanita-design.net/samorost-1/

ummm, you didn't try to hold a civil discussion, you went all ad-hom when I corrected you and got butthurt because I said "fucking" and tried to educate you on some grammar (becaus you apparently failed 2nd grade but yet are still allowed to spend your allowance on video games)

and for some reason it makes you feel good about yourself to envision and call me "trailer trash"

I tried addressing you in PM and you got all whiny

seriously, dejavous, get a fucking clue about life

the argument you two are having reminds me of when I was a kid and I used to get into fights with other kids over who was tougher, Hulk Hogan or the Iron Sheik. :P

I don't even have an argument, I was just trying to understand

dude has no capacity for not being coddled when spoken to is all and was an asshole, and I have no tolerance for assholes so I'm letting him have it now

ok so I played all the linked "demos and games" with an open mind, yes the games are intriguing, yes the background art is great but I would not pay for them, they just don't apeal to me visualy.

do you want to understand anime, manga and Japanese visual culture? It could be a good discussion, if kept civil. first of all, it is much wider topic than people think (i.e. "they all look alike Sailor Moon characters") going back to pre-christian times.

Sometimes - if you really are interested to continue a discussion in the way you wanted it to - it's just the best to simply forget what has been said. Of course it's always up to yourself if you think it's worth it or not.

And like I already said at least for me that is completely all right. All I wanted to prevent is for you to get the wrong impression. Of course the artstyle is not appealing to everybody - that's mostly the case with "out of the ordinary" artstyle ... it sometimes even is with pretty "normal" artstyle. But you tested it and you confirmed your suspicions that this might not exactly be your kind of look and so you can be sure that you won't be missing out.

Not worth it for me, this is not the only time this individual has attacked me on the forums.

At least we can have a civil discussion about differnt views. Thank you.