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Hot spot indicator? What sorcery is this?!

Simon the Sorcerer & Simon the Sorcerer 2: 25th Anniversary Edition are coming soon, DRM-free to GOG.com.
He can be arrogant. He can be obnoxious. He can drive your favorite fairytale characters nuts. If that wasn't enough, he's now also enhanced for his 25th Anniversary! Sporting a modernized control scheme, upscaled visuals, new animations and the option to mix and match all the cool new features with those of the original versions, Simon is back and ready to point & click his way into infamy once more.

The Anniversary editions will be released on April 3rd. The original versions will be removed from sale and added to these as a bonus goodie.
Each Anniversary Edition will cost 8.99 USD.
Owners of the original games will get a 50% discount on them.
Getting both Anniversary editions will grant you a 10% bundle discount.
Simon the Sorcerer 2 does dynamic music changes, so playback via sound files would not work well at all.

Also these versions won't improve the subtitles support for English & German version of Simon the Sorcerer 1 at all, the subtitles are just enabled via hack, which can cause glitches, and is still missing many subtitles.

The English & German versions of Simon the Sorcerer 1 would have to be completely rewritten script wise, adding the missing subtitles. Which would really be a significant upgrade worth buying, but I doubt it will ever happen.
Post edited March 21, 2018 by Kirben
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Wow, this does not look good indeed! I was expecting some higher res remakes of the game's original graphics. But this is just... horrible.
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loki1985: So, we are supposed to buy it again? For something that looks pretty much exactly like when you activate those shitty looking upscalers in ScummVM? Audio is obviously the same as before, so I guess activating the upscaling engine is considered a remake these days....

//EDIT: actually I would not be surprised to see this is just ScummVM with a slightly hacked config....
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nightcraw1er.488: Yes you are supposed to buy it again, they don't want comparisons to the original to show how little they have done, just look at anything beamdog has done, they are the archetype for re-releasing old games, with nothing done to them, for at least twice the price. Heck NWN is next up on the cash cow list. It's just now your seeing others do it as well.
Beamdog at least did rework the engine so it uses way less CPU-Power and did some good Font-Stuff. Oh, an PS:T EE was done with much more love---UHD-optimized Interface, better resolution-handling and so on. (BG and so on on the other hand just got shitty interface sidegrades) Sadly, they didn´t reworked their older EEs to meet the new standard they set with PS:T EE yet. Still waiting for it, till then I won´t touch BG, BG II and IWD.

Instead, they went for NWN, but instead of doing an engine port and reworking all textures they did barely nothing... :(

Well, at least it´s not such a Scumm (pun intentend) as this 25thAnniEdi here!
Post edited March 21, 2018 by RadonGOG
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Caesar.: The new controls and hotspot system might also be useful, but for me voice acting + subtitles is worth the new price alone. And I will probably buy it at a sale, so it's not that much.
For me it's mostly about the hotspots. I think hot spot indicator is the greatest invention in the genre's history, eliminating sometimes hours of tedium that would totally kill the fun. Though voiceover + subtitles is also helpful. I hate playing without voiceovers, the silence makes it really boring and dull, but subtitles help make sure I don't miss some important clue hidden in the dialogue.

And since we can choose which graphichs we want to play with, I'll jsut wait to see what ends up looking better for me in action.

That said, I do agree that removing the originals from the store is a crappy move. Untouched originals should always remain available.
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Dogmaus: Maybe it is part of a deal for more Adventuresoft stuff coming here, like the 2005 Call of Chtulu game? Or hardly the Elvira games?
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pbaggers: Don't know if you're aware of this, but some time last year Call of Cthulhu Dark Corners of the Earth was in fact available on GOG for all of a week until it was quietly removed for reasons I'm unsure of. (This was in the middle of a sale too, so few probably noticed it coming and going).

The Elvira games look interesting. I'd buy them if they were on here - but I'm guessing that Adventuresoft doesn't have the rights to her likeness anymore - hence why we have Personal Nightmare and Waxworks, but not them.
I have a recollection, now that you say it, of wishlisting it. The Elvira games are sold on a box on the Adventuresoft online store...but said box is sold out, while it looks still possible to buy the Feeble Files box.
[url=]http://www.adventuresoft.com/acatalog/Other_Adventure_Soft_games.html[/url] I must be doing something wrong with this link.

Another Adventuresoft game based on an IP would be the Gremlins textual adventure. I am quite sure that we won't see that here. Maybe a 40 years special edition with blurred fonts.



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Caesar.: The new controls and hotspot system might also be useful, but for me voice acting + subtitles is worth the new price alone.
I think that should be a free patch, not force you to buy the game twice.
Post edited March 21, 2018 by Dogmaus
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What is so terrible about bullshitmasters like this one is that they cause people to be pissed off remasters in general. Why is that problem? Because we need way more remasters in higher quality. There are so many games that were unpolished when they were released, games that were performing bad and could be enhanced with todays technology and so on but remain untouched.

If such bullshitmasters like these would vanish, maybe there´d be more room for goodmasters.
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RadonGOG: bullshitmasters
Sounds like a reality show.
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i'm going to weigh in here, so mojotouch [though i doubt they read this forum, because they seem pretty fly-by-night just from this release alone. so it's basically a cash grab.] actually sees more frustration and won't-buy noise:

the good? hotspots. that the voices and text can be seen side-by-side.

the bad? nearly everything else.

gog, you're nominally complicit here, because you're allowing them to tell you to pull the originals from the store so that ONLY this version can be sold at a markup. how long until they strong arm you into removing the originals as freebies?

won't touch. won't even wishlist.

in future: PLEASE negotiate so you can keep both versions. this practice of removing the original to replace it with a sometimes-inferior product isn't a great look for you or mojotouch. it just says you're consumer-hostile [on both ends.]

besides. most people who got simon got it because the pixel art was fantastic. butchering it like you're doing here absolutely takes away from the appreciation of that aesthetic.

[edited, about five minutes later: i kept calling them mojosoft. they're really mojotouch. plus: fly-by-nightness confirmed. this is their only release, and i'm almost willing to bet that they do mainly ios/android games, given the name of the studio. suspicion confirmed: [see attachment]]

[editedit: folks, brace yourselves. their games are...very appy. and they did a flight of the amazon queen "remaster." that will be incoming at some point, too, i'm sure.]
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Post edited March 21, 2018 by lostwolfe
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RadonGOG: What is so terrible about bullshitmasters like this one is that they cause people to be pissed off remasters in general. Why is that problem? Because we need way more remasters in higher quality. There are so many games that were unpolished when they were released, games that were performing bad and could be enhanced with todays technology and so on but remain untouched.

If such bullshitmasters like these would vanish, maybe there´d be more room for goodmasters.
Name a "good" remaster, I.e. One where price matches additions. As I am struggling to find a single one which is not a total scam. I haven't seen PS:T so can't comment, but there was nothing beneficial in BG. It's the current trend, everything is getting a remake, quick easy cash, it is not under any circumstances to do anything for the customer. This one is a prime example, zero has been done, now give us more money. Not saying there aren't places where improvements can be made on old games, it's just that takes effort and does not give the returns.
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Breja: I think hot spot indicator is the greatest invention in the genre's history, eliminating sometimes hours of tedium that would totally kill the fun. Though voiceover + subtitles is also helpful. I hate playing without voiceovers, the silence makes it really boring and dull, but subtitles help make sure I don't miss some important clue hidden in the dialogue.
I'm pretty sure MojoTouch doesn't want anybody to say this, but the original version of Simon 2 already has those features.
Just press F10 anywhere and it'll show you blinking hotspot indicators for a few seconds.
To activate subtitles in addition to the default voiceovers, press T.

That's it.

[EDIT: Simon the Sorcerer 1's original release also features hotspot highlighting via F10. MojoTouch can go to hell.]

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Breja: And since we can choose which graphichs we want to play with, I'll jsut wait to see what ends up looking better for me in action.
It's just a crappy graphics filter. You can activate ones like that in the regular versions as well. Just add

gfx_mode=hq3x
or
gfx_mode=supereagle
or
gfx_mode=super2xsai
or
gfx_mode=advmame3x

to the game's .ini file (or even the command line in the game's short cut, if I'm not mistaken) and you'll get pretty much the same result.
Post edited March 21, 2018 by InfraSuperman
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RadonGOG: What is so terrible about bullshitmasters like this one is that they cause people to be pissed off remasters in general. Why is that problem? Because we need way more remasters in higher quality. There are so many games that were unpolished when they were released, games that were performing bad and could be enhanced with todays technology and so on but remain untouched.

If such bullshitmasters like these would vanish, maybe there´d be more room for goodmasters.
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nightcraw1er.488: Name a "good" remaster, I.e. One where price matches additions. As I am struggling to find a single one which is not a total scam. I haven't seen PS:T so can't comment, but there was nothing beneficial in BG. It's the current trend, everything is getting a remake, quick easy cash, it is not under any circumstances to do anything for the customer. This one is a prime example, zero has been done, now give us more money. Not saying there aren't places where improvements can be made on old games, it's just that takes effort and does not give the returns.
these aren't gog games, so pardon me for weighing in with non-gog-game suggestions, but i've currently been on a bit of a re-do binge:

i just polished off castle of illusions, ducktales remastered and chronicles of mystara - these are all old-ish games that run the gamut.

castle of illusions + mystara are pretty good re-do's. mystara even adds extra stuff to do [admittedly, this is all trapped in achievement hunting] but these are both "more-or-less" remasters done right. [although, for castle of illusion and ducktales remastered, you're completely losing the original game for the remaster - that's more like a remake, i guess.]

they're out there, but they're few and far between. [which is much the same as it is in movieland. i mean, that new total recall was a bomb. ditto for robocop. but on the other hand, people seemed to quite like oceans eleven [which is a remake] and little shop of horrors.]
Post edited March 21, 2018 by lostwolfe
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RadonGOG: What is so terrible about bullshitmasters like this one is that they cause people to be pissed off remasters in general. Why is that problem? Because we need way more remasters in higher quality. There are so many games that were unpolished when they were released, games that were performing bad and could be enhanced with todays technology and so on but remain untouched.

If such bullshitmasters like these would vanish, maybe there´d be more room for goodmasters.
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nightcraw1er.488: Name a "good" remaster, I.e. One where price matches additions. As I am struggling to find a single one which is not a total scam. I haven't seen PS:T so can't comment, but there was nothing beneficial in BG. It's the current trend, everything is getting a remake, quick easy cash, it is not under any circumstances to do anything for the customer. This one is a prime example, zero has been done, now give us more money. Not saying there aren't places where improvements can be made on old games, it's just that takes effort and does not give the returns.
Homeworld?
The tech-rework is fairly large and beneficial. They´ve made a few discussable decisions elsewhere, but this most important (for this game, of course!) part was pretty well done.
Battlegrounds even got no letdown as far as I know.
Haven´t played enough of Wings!, but what I´ve seen was well done as well.
Would love to have access to StarCraftRemastered SinglePlayer on here.
GrimFandango is a good example for little tweaked but great effect. The other two did even more, but prices were higher, so I´m not sure if you´d let them count.

Nevertheless: Naming a few sounds like a pretty easy task I´d say.
Post edited March 21, 2018 by RadonGOG
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nightcraw1er.488: Name a "good" remaster, I.e. One where price matches additions. As I am struggling to find a single one which is not a total scam. I haven't seen PS:T so can't comment, but there was nothing beneficial in BG. It's the current trend, everything is getting a remake, quick easy cash, it is not under any circumstances to do anything for the customer. This one is a prime example, zero has been done, now give us more money. Not saying there aren't places where improvements can be made on old games, it's just that takes effort and does not give the returns.
I am satisfied with remasters of LucasArts adventure games.
Some people hate them though.
i must be the only one that truly hated this game, the mechanics to move him sucked, maybe the remake will fix this
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Breja: I think hot spot indicator is the greatest invention in the genre's history, eliminating sometimes hours of tedium that would totally kill the fun. Though voiceover + subtitles is also helpful. I hate playing without voiceovers, the silence makes it really boring and dull, but subtitles help make sure I don't miss some important clue hidden in the dialogue.
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InfraSuperman: I'm pretty sure MojoTouch doesn't want anybody to say this, but the original version of Simon 2 already has those features.
Just press F10 anywhere and it'll show you blinking hotspot indicators for a few seconds.
To activate subtitles in addition to the default voiceovers, press T.

That's it.

[EDIT: Simon the Sorcerer 1's original release also features hotspot highlighting via F10. MojoTouch can go to hell.]

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Breja: And since we can choose which graphichs we want to play with, I'll jsut wait to see what ends up looking better for me in action.
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InfraSuperman: It's just a crappy graphics filter. You can activate ones like that in the regular versions as well. Just add

gfx_mode=hq3x
or
gfx_mode=supereagle
or
gfx_mode=super2xsai
or
gfx_mode=advmame3x

to the game's .ini file (or even the command line in the game's short cut, if I'm not mistaken) and you'll get pretty much the same result.
Those are all incredibly out of date though. Until DOSBox supports something newer like xbr, those of us who like the smooth look will have to buy "remasters" like this.
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RadonGOG: What is so terrible about bullshitmasters like this one is that they cause people to be pissed off remasters in general. Why is that problem? Because we need way more remasters in higher quality. There are so many games that were unpolished when they were released, games that were performing bad and could be enhanced with todays technology and so on but remain untouched.

If such bullshitmasters like these would vanish, maybe there´d be more room for goodmasters.
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nightcraw1er.488: Name a "good" remaster, I.e. One where price matches additions. As I am struggling to find a single one which is not a total scam. I haven't seen PS:T so can't comment, but there was nothing beneficial in BG. It's the current trend, everything is getting a remake, quick easy cash, it is not under any circumstances to do anything for the customer. This one is a prime example, zero has been done, now give us more money. Not saying there aren't places where improvements can be made on old games, it's just that takes effort and does not give the returns.
Homeworld Collection?
Post edited March 21, 2018 by robomagon