Posted April 13, 2020
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my name is catte
i touch your foods
Registered: Mar 2010
From United Kingdom
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GamezRanker
Disagreement Verboten!
Registered: Sep 2010
From United States
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my name is catte
i touch your foods
Registered: Mar 2010
From United Kingdom
Posted April 13, 2020
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GamezRanker
Disagreement Verboten!
Registered: Sep 2010
From United States
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lonzi
New User
Registered: Aug 2018
From United States
Posted April 14, 2020
I'm making a post so that I'm notified of replies if I want to play later.
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my name is catte
i touch your foods
Registered: Mar 2010
From United Kingdom
Posted April 14, 2020
I'm guessing that means you want to be added to this list: GOGFAAATHERRRRRR!
I'd recommend ticking the "This is my favourite topic" box as well, because... well obviously this is your favourite topic!
I'd recommend ticking the "This is my favourite topic" box as well, because... well obviously this is your favourite topic!
Post edited April 14, 2020 by SirPrimalform
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Skuatoi
New User
Registered: Apr 2012
From United States
Posted April 14, 2020
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There are three teams. The viziers, the rebels, and the protestors. Like in mafia, everyone's allegiance is kept hidden except for the grand vizier.
At the end of the first session of court, the grand vizier will appoint several lower viziers from the other players to join his faction, and they will receive powers based on the setup of the game. Their objective is to imprison all of the rebels.
If a vizier is *defamed, the grand vizier will select a replacement. If the grand vizier selects a rebel, then he will be assassinated, in which case the remaining players will vote for a new grand vizier the next “day.”
The rebels win if one of them is chosen to be the grand vizier, or if they control a majority of lower vizier positions. The protesters win alongside the rebels, unless they are appointed viziers.
*Defamation: After the court phase is over, the grand vizier and rebels each choose a player to defame. During the next court session, players will vote for either of the two players (similar to lynching). If the player who gets the most votes is a vizier, then he is removed from office and becomes a protestor. If it’s not a vizier, then they are imprisoned.
Post edited April 14, 2020 by zazak09
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TheGOGfather
Mafia Admin
Registered: Nov 2011
From Italy
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Microfish_1
I'm not a duck
Registered: Dec 2017
From United States
Posted April 14, 2020
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There are three teams. The viziers, the rebels, and the protestors. Like in mafia, everyone's allegiance is kept hidden except for the grand vizier.
At the end of the first session of court, the grand vizier will appoint several lower viziers from the other players to join his faction, and they will receive powers based on the setup of the game. Their objective is to imprison all of the rebels.
If a vizier is *defamed, the grand vizier will select a replacement. If the grand vizier selects a rebel, then he will be assassinated, in which case the remaining players will vote for a new grand vizier the next “day.”
The rebels win if one of them is chosen to be the grand vizier, or if they control a majority of lower vizier positions. The protesters win alongside the rebels, unless they are appointed viziers.
*Defamation: After the court phase is over, the grand vizier and rebels each choose a player to defame. During the next court session, players will vote for either of the two players (similar to lynching). If the player who gets the most votes is a vizier, then he is removed from office and becomes a protestor. If it’s not a vizier, then they are imprisoned.
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ZFR
I love gold!
Registered: Jan 2010
From Ireland
Posted April 14, 2020
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Here is an idea: the setup is closed, but roles are restricted to a list you provide.
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Carradice
Orlanthi
Registered: Mar 2013
From Spain
Posted April 14, 2020
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Here is an idea: the setup is closed, but roles are restricted to a list you provide.
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flubbucket
"Intoning"
Registered: Dec 2012
From Micronesia
Posted April 14, 2020
Brilliant!
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my name is catte
i touch your foods
Registered: Mar 2010
From United Kingdom
Posted April 14, 2020
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The joke is that Joe's normal MO is to say "the roles are restricted in the usual way" and link to the massive GOG list of roles.
Phew, that makes it all worthwhile! I was beginning to think I'd wasted all this time I have far too much of.
Post edited April 14, 2020 by SirPrimalform
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ZFR
I love gold!
Registered: Jan 2010
From Ireland
Posted April 14, 2020
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Here is an idea: the setup is closed, but roles are restricted to a list you provide.
![avatar](http://images.gog.com/39618d7e5f1547dc391987b3ad5c61b29aa315fac4d603e33c9ec4f5206285c5_avm.jpg)
[url=https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Category:Semi-Open_Setups]https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Category:Semi-Open_Setups[/url]
Joe may or may not have used the format I described. Once, or twice, or 3 times or always.
His list may or may not have been so large to make it almost a closed setup.
People may or may not have still failed to refer to his list and gain valuable information about how some roles, like maybe masons, work in his setup.
Post edited April 14, 2020 by ZFR
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my name is catte
i touch your foods
Registered: Mar 2010
From United Kingdom
Posted April 14, 2020
Post edited April 14, 2020 by SirPrimalform