ZFR: Catte, what did you do N1? What was that about me and Joe?
I watched trent on N1. At that point I still thought there was a reasonable chance he was
town and would self confirm the next day so I thought I might catch someone coming to kill
him. Instead the only person I saw visit him was GH, which is something we found out the
next day anyway.
Last night I used coward-finder on bucktoothgamer, which would have given me a positive or
negative result and verified his claim. The fact it failed obviously has no bearing on
btg's alignment, but I'm beginning to think my instincts were right.
Is that second question aimed at me? You'll need to be more specific because it's not
ringing any bells.
Why didn't you investigate flub again on N2 since you didn't get a chance to on N1? You said you suspected him of being a lyncher, what changed?
ZFR: (Incidentally, I don't think Lift should have informed the targeted player
that they were infected. Just have them fail results.
It seems Lift is unnecessarily doing it to many roles in his games, like bucktooth/catte
today. Unless they're Loud, targets shouldn't know they've been targeted).
Well my role is explicitly LOUD in the event of a failure, I have conditional loud
modifier. As for being infected, it sounds like you lost your night action on the night you
were infected and gained it on the night you were healed. Given the way it seems to work,
you might be able to infer that you were infected anyway, although I guess you're thinking
it should be indistinguishable from being roleblocked or jailed?
bucktoothgamer: 3. If my PR role was nerfed after I claimed, why do they keep giving me opportunity to
use it? The reason I claimed after n1 in the first place was that I figured letting the
group know that we had 2 potential targets of a scum attack may have given us more insight
on who to lynch.
Because your power is harmless to them as long as they don't aim at you. Knowledge is
enough to protect them from you, they don't need to kill you when they could be killing
someone else.
JoeSapphire: PERHAPS something like a power-embargo should be considered? Just to give the
mafia a bit of a sporting chance towards the end of the game?
Lolno.
Spoken like a true yogsloth in the first Harry Potter game.
(For those of you who weren't there, I mean a mafioso complaining the game is unfair.)
ZFR: Take me for example, I know I was infected and I announced it. With trent's flip we have a
confirmed Infector.
This helps confirm me as Town (or rather non-Mafia). Since no one else claimed to be
Infected, my claim must be true. The only way I'm not non-Mafia is if trent purposely
withheld using his power in order to "clear" me. This would require superWIFOM from Mafia's
side: they're essentially giving up one of their strongest weapons - permablock.
It had crossed my mind that the note to Trent and the infection thing could be an elaborate
ruse. You are both experienced players after all. You'd only need to withhold it for one
night for the plan to work (it wasn't a sure thing that you'd lose Trent on D2 after all).
I'm not sure how I feel about you having brought it up, that in itself is WIFOMy. On the
one hand why would scum!ZFR draw attention to what actually happened? On the other hand,
perhaps that's the point.
JoeSapphire: if he's willing to bus trent on day one for no reason, why doesn't he bus trent day two
when he's actually going down?
looks to me like he believed trent's claim, and thought blotunga was mafia
Well being second on trent's wagon on D1, it's possible he didn't think trent was a likely
lynch and it was a distancing vote. Once the wagon got going he couldn't really jump off
without a good reason. On D2 when the wagon was for realz from the start, he couldn't bring
himself to bus his buddy. I dunno, it's not completely damning but it's far from making him
look particularly townie.
GymHenson: I don't either....likely will cast my vote for them in a bit.
JoeSapphire: what about him being second on trentonlf's wagon day one?
and nothing on his wagon day two?
that's a townie look from where I'm sitting
Ok, that's the second time you've posted exactly this. You're awfully eager to dissuade
people from voting for him.
If scum, second vote on D1 is hardly bussing and more likely distancing.
Reluctance to join that wagon on D2 looks more like reluctance to bus. It's not strong either way, it neither condemns nor aquits him.
It's kind of weird that you're putting this much effort into defending him. Is btg your buddy and are you freaking out about possibly losing him so soon after bussing trent?
I see there's still another page to come so I'll post this and carry on.