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Posted October 19, 2015
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vv221: A quick suggestion to allow your Esc key to live longer: copy one of the working movies and put it in place of the faulty one. I can’t promise it will work as I don’t have this game, but it may be worth a try ;)
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JudasIscariot: Already tried that by switching the names around. I might try to find a one second .mov file and use that in place of the the intro.mov file :)
crashing movies?
any chance you have winegstreamer active? Try disabling it when compiling (--without-gstreamer) or run with WINEDLLOVERRIDES=winegstreamer=d.
It is just plain broken atm and will randomly crash, hang or set your cat on fire.

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though reading the bug report about it, it seems to happen even with gstreamer disabled ...
Post edited October 19, 2015 by immi101
Posted October 19, 2015
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JudasIscariot: Already tried that by switching the names around. I might try to find a one second .mov file and use that in place of the the intro.mov file :)
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immi101: crashing movies?
any chance you have winegstreamer active? Try disabling it when compiling (--without-gstreamer) or run with WINEDLLOVERRIDES=winegstreamer=d.
It is just plain broken atm and will randomly crash, hang or set your cat on fire.

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though reading the bug report abort it, it seems to happen even with gstreamer disabled ...
This "WINEDLLOVERRIDES=winegstreamer=d" kills the game to the point where I can't even see the main menu. No, I don't have gstreamer support compiled into WIne 1.7.53 since it would require installing 32-bit gstreamer-0.10-dev libraries which would require the removal of their 64-bit counterparts....and everything on my system it seems including my DE and such. Seriously, I tried installing those 32-bit libs via APT and it showed me a list a mile long of things that would be removed because apparently gstreamer doesn't have multi-arch support.


Is there a functional difference between compiling Wine 1.7.53 with the --without-gstreamer flag and just not having the 32-bit gstreamer development libraries in the first place and, thus,not available for compilation?
Post edited October 19, 2015 by JudasIscariot
Posted October 19, 2015
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immi101: crashing movies?
any chance you have winegstreamer active? Try disabling it when compiling (--without-gstreamer) or run with WINEDLLOVERRIDES=winegstreamer=d.
It is just plain broken atm and will randomly crash, hang or set your cat on fire.

//edit:
though reading the bug report abort it, it seems to happen even with gstreamer disabled ...
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JudasIscariot: This "WINEDLLOVERRIDES=winegstreamer=d" kills the game to the point where I can't even see the main menu. No, I don't have gstreamer support compiled into WIne 1.7.53 since it would require installing 32-bit gstreamer-0.10-dev libraries which would require the removal of their 64-bit counterparts....and everything on my system it seems including my DE and such. Seriously, I tried installing those 32-bit libs via APT and it showed me a list a mile long of things that would be removed because apparently gstreamer doesn't have multi-arch support.
just don't bother.

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JudasIscariot: Is there a functional difference between compiling Wine 1.7.53 with the --without-gstreamer flag and just not having the 32-bit gstreamer development libraries in the first place and, thus,not available for compilation?
hmm, i would have said there is no difference, but since you say the game behaves different if you run the game with winegstreamer disabled, i am probably wrong.
Posted October 19, 2015
Currently compiling WINE in a chroot so that I can test. It took a while to get to this point because of annoying multi-arch bugs.
Posted October 19, 2015
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dtgreene: Currently compiling WINE in a chroot so that I can test. It took a while to get to this point because of annoying multi-arch bugs.
If you know how to make WINE convert WMA audio to PCM, you'll have solved the "game hangs after pressing "New Game"" issue :)
Posted October 21, 2015
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JudasIscariot: This "WINEDLLOVERRIDES=winegstreamer=d" kills the game to the point where I can't even see the main menu. No, I don't have gstreamer support compiled into WIne 1.7.53 since it would require installing 32-bit gstreamer-0.10-dev libraries which would require the removal of their 64-bit counterparts....and everything on my system it seems including my DE and such. Seriously, I tried installing those 32-bit libs via APT and it showed me a list a mile long of things that would be removed because apparently gstreamer doesn't have multi-arch support.
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immi101: just don't bother.

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JudasIscariot: Is there a functional difference between compiling Wine 1.7.53 with the --without-gstreamer flag and just not having the 32-bit gstreamer development libraries in the first place and, thus,not available for compilation?
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immi101: hmm, i would have said there is no difference, but since you say the game behaves different if you run the game with winegstreamer disabled, i am probably wrong.
Here's the funny thing:

I made a clean WINE prefix. Followed dtgreene's post here: http://www.gog.com/forum/elminage_gothic/running_elminage_gothic_under_wine_1753_attempts/post5 and now the game runs swimmingly :D No freeze on clicking "New Game", no crashes (been playing for about an hour just in the character creation screen :D) sound works and all :)

I think something got messed up in my previous WINE prefix :/
Posted October 21, 2015
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JudasIscariot: ... now the game runs swimmingly :D No freeze on clicking "New Game", no crashes (been playing for about an hour just in the character creation screen :D) sound works and all :)
Nice. Didn't attempt this yet as my motherboard crapped out on me the other night. Might have time tonight even.
Posted October 21, 2015
If I may take this slightly back to the OP for a moment, I want to express a wish for more Linux versions of games to be released too. I made the permanent switch to Linux maybe a year back, and have loved it (though with a few frustrations here and there). I have 119 games on my shelf, but when I filter for Linux games, the count drops to 28. Sad penguin face :(
Posted October 21, 2015
There are still many games with native Linux versions available on Humble, but not on GOG.

La-Mulana
Jazzpunk
The Swapper
The Inner World
Q.U.B.E. Director's Cut
Stealth Bastard Deluxe
Torchlight
Reus
Montague's Mount
Symphony
Tiny and Big: Grandpa's Leftovers
...

Any plans to bring their Linux versions here in the foreseeable future?
Posted October 21, 2015
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JudasIscariot: Here's the funny thing:

I made a clean WINE prefix. Followed dtgreene's post here: http://www.gog.com/forum/elminage_gothic/running_elminage_gothic_under_wine_1753_attempts/post5 and now the game runs swimmingly :D No freeze on clicking "New Game", no crashes (been playing for about an hour just in the character creation screen :D) sound works and all :)

I think something got messed up in my previous WINE prefix :/
i guess the lesson here is to always follow the mantra: start off with a seperate, clean WINE prefix :)
Posted October 21, 2015
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JudasIscariot: snip
It looks as though you're quite into WINE by now, which is good.
Do you know of more upcoming WINE-packages on Gog since you seem to be handling the configs pretty well anyway?
I like the few pre-configured packages with specific WINE versions that are around here.
They are way better than play-on-linux, because they are working offline and it's easier to choose the games destined location.
One with out of the file (box) working midi-music for System Shock would be grand as well as one with working music for Banished (PoL has a configuration for GoG's installer but the music doesn't work).
Post edited October 21, 2015 by Klumpen0815
Posted October 21, 2015
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JudasIscariot: snip
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Klumpen0815: It looks as though you're quite into WINE by now, which is good.
Do you know of more upcoming WINE-packages on Gog since you seem to be handling the configs pretty well anyway?
I like the few pre-configured packages with specific WINE versions that are around here.
They are way better than play-on-linux, because they are working offline and it's easier to choose the games destined location.
One with out of the file (box) working midi-music for System Shock would be grand as well as one with working music for Banished (PoL has a configuration for GoG's installer but the music doesn't work).
Yes, I am into WINE but it's mostly because I like experimenting and seeing if I can make things work and I hope that my experimentation helps others out here as well :)

I am hoping we'll get more WINE-packages but as to whether we can or will depends on individual publishers' whims on that front since, in the end, we can only sell what we are legally allowed to sell.

As for System Shock, I would request that of Night Dive, it's their baby and they built the initial Windows version we have on offer here :)

As for Banished, I heard rumours that there is a native Linux port on the way or at least it would appear to be possible. See this blogpost by the dev: http://www.shiningrocksoftware.com/2015-05-01-opengl-data-conversion/
Post edited October 21, 2015 by JudasIscariot
Posted October 21, 2015
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JudasIscariot: As for Banished, I heard rumours that there is a native Linux port on the way or at least it would appear to be possible. See this blogpost by the dev: http://www.shiningrocksoftware.com/2015-05-01-opengl-data-conversion/
*_*
Posted October 21, 2015
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JudasIscariot: Here's the funny thing:

I made a clean WINE prefix. Followed dtgreene's post here: http://www.gog.com/forum/elminage_gothic/running_elminage_gothic_under_wine_1753_attempts/post5 and now the game runs swimmingly :D No freeze on clicking "New Game", no crashes (been playing for about an hour just in the character creation screen :D) sound works and all :)

I think something got messed up in my previous WINE prefix :/
So it really is that simple, huh? 1.7.53 hasn't yet hit the repo for Wineskin, but once it does I'll give it a try on my Mac.
Posted October 21, 2015
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JudasIscariot: Here's the funny thing:

I made a clean WINE prefix. Followed dtgreene's post here: http://www.gog.com/forum/elminage_gothic/running_elminage_gothic_under_wine_1753_attempts/post5 and now the game runs swimmingly :D No freeze on clicking "New Game", no crashes (been playing for about an hour just in the character creation screen :D) sound works and all :)

I think something got messed up in my previous WINE prefix :/
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rampancy: So it really is that simple, huh? 1.7.53 hasn't yet hit the repo for Wineskin, but once it does I'll give it a try on my Mac.
Yeah, it really is :)

It helps that they really worked on XAUDIO support in version 1.7.53 as I was getting XAUDIO crash-to-desktop errors in version 1.7.50 and 1.6.2 for whatever reason :/

Just be sure to make a clean wine prefix and only install the winetricks I listed and you should be fine but I am not sure how things are on the Mac side of WINE myself :)
Post edited October 21, 2015 by JudasIscariot
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