Jeffry84: I don't know much about systemd and I keep wondering what this hate is all about. I guess it's because it's too Linux dependent to be as universal as other init systems, but that's all.
Palestine: Typically, the disdain for 'systemd' stems from its ever-growing feature set (
feature creep), as it attempts to integrate various functions of other programs (this is outside of the scope of what PID 1 is traditionally meant to achieve). Unintentional, or otherwise, this can have a widespread, detrimental impact upon other projects, as systemd has become the default initialization system on several commonly-used distributions of Linux.
Thankfully, since 'udev' was usurped by systemd, Gentoo forked udev (with the name of 'eudev'). In the coming months, after a substantial trial period in a production environment, I will most-likely be replacing Gentoo's eudev with 'smdev' (coupled with 'nldev') on the systems that I administrate.
Personally, I have settled on 'sinit' as the best minimalistic initialization system (which only requires
3 files in total: the manually-compiled sinit binary, an init script, and a shutdown/reboot script). On old and new computers alike, the stability has been rock-solid, user-initiated start-ups/restarts/shutdowns have never been quicker, all of which is probably related to its inherent simplicity. This comes after using SysVinit for years, and using OpenRC for over one year.
This post is EXACTLY why Linux will NEVER win the Desktop, or get Windows users over to Linux. I have no f*cking idea what the hell you said in that post, no idea whatsoever. And I'm a Windows PC engineer, I build and install Windows systems. Now ask someone like my 78 year-old neighbour if he understood any of that shite, and he would think you've lost your mind. Stop and ask anyone in the street, and apart from 1 or 2 Linux nerds, you might get a punch in the face from people who think you are taking the piss.
Seriously Linux nerds, step outside your little nerd bubble, just for a few minutes, and see yourselves. You really have no f*cking idea about the average person. I do, I deal with them every day of the week. And I'm telling you this, they will NEVER be able to install, then maintain a Linux system. Let alone, goto a high-street store, buy a off-the-shelf printer, or whatever device, go home and get the thing working on Linux. Even on Windows, they do struggle, but they can at the very least understand the basics because it's pretty standard across Windows systems.
I tried a Linux distro, back in the spring, on my I7 8700k, Z370 Asus Motherboard, Nvidia GTX 1080, 16 Gb Ram, and all I got was a black screen and a cursor, nothing else. Thankfully, this was a bootable disk, so I didn't risk my Windows 10 install. But imagine a average user trying this and getting the same, what would they do ? At least with windows, they get a desktop, and 99% of the time their internet will work. So they have something to start from.
I can give my 75 year-old dad a Windows 10 USB Stick and he will have a working system in the time it takes to install. Why ? Because it's pretty damn easy to just insert a USB stick and in a couple of hours he will have, at the very least, a working desktop with internet access. Can you say the same with a Linux Distro ? No, you can't. And until this changes, this will always be like this.
If I wiped Windows 10, installed Linux and got the damn thing to work with ALL my hardware, I would lose nearly 85% of my entire games library. I mean, we don't need to do the maths here, all we need to do is ask, WHY ? Why would I do that ? As much as you slag off Win 10, it's a pretty-damn decent OS, despite what some here say. You have complete freedom, despite what some here say. You can customise to your hearts content, and even switch off all the telemetry - even if you have to use registry hacks, or Group Policy Editor hacks.
It's almost week after week, on this forum, that we see these silly Linux willy-waving threads. You lot treat Linux like a freaking religion, or worse, a cult. You are nuts.
The Windows OS is crap, Microsoft are evil, posts are getting boring. It's like the XP days, then the Vista days, now the Windows 10 days. It never changes. The same piss-poor arguments, made by the same pro-Linux idiots.
I expect this to be down-voted to hell. But hey, I don't care. ALL my games work as they should. All my emulators work as they should - You have CEMU yet ? What was that ? No ? Oh dear.
