Posted February 20, 2016
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Maxvorstadt
I is more stronger than Darth Vapour!
Registered: Apr 2014
From Germany
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Cavalary
RIP GoodOldGOG:DRMfree,one price,goodies,community
Registered: May 2011
From Romania
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McGuffins
🎶
Registered: Mar 2015
From Other
Posted February 20, 2016
Wimps mode for me, learning curve too time consuming.
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budejovice
3/23/17
Registered: Sep 2013
From Belize
Posted February 20, 2016
"A strange game. The only winning move is not to play."
Can't remember if that was Schopenhauer or WOPR.
Can't remember if that was Schopenhauer or WOPR.
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Maxvorstadt
I is more stronger than Darth Vapour!
Registered: Apr 2014
From Germany
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PyroDrew
New User
Registered: Sep 2014
From United States
Posted February 20, 2016
How come no one ever posts what happens after permadeath with some screenshots or something?
It's always someone just saying they haven't gone through permadeath, but they totally know exactly what happens. The worst are the ones who try to get you to join their guild afterwards.
It's always someone just saying they haven't gone through permadeath, but they totally know exactly what happens. The worst are the ones who try to get you to join their guild afterwards.
Post edited February 20, 2016 by PyroDrew
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Emob78
jack and coke plz
Registered: Dec 2012
From United States
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awalterj
maskless bandit
Registered: Nov 2013
From Switzerland
Posted February 21, 2016
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It is very hard to figure out in real life what actually helps gain xp, can exercise tons but still be weak and maybe have some status ailment like arthritis or runner's knee and not even know which one i have if have something like knee pain.
It is very hard to grind in real life because of the lack of feedback. In order to learn or get stronger one needs to figure out what feedback is important. In other rogueikes I can see xp appearing giving me feedback, and I can see the exact damage an enemy does to me unlike real life where if I get hit I have no idea what kind of damage is actually done. Like if I stood outside too long in the cold, do I have frostbite, where is the status ailment screen! I'm even trying to increase my cold resistance with cold showers and stuff but I'm afraid of the various status ailments and it is hard to tell if I'm actually afflicted with something like frostbite or chilblains.
I don't need an "achievement unlocked" pop-up because one can feel level-ups well enough in real life, the problem is that we don't have an EXP counter so we don't know if we train efficiently. Skill plateaus in RL are more brutal than in any game. It's like flying in the dark without instruments.
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(honestly generally prefer none roguelke video games cause I like to reload saves and such to see the results of different actions.)
I also try meditative breathing but it doesn't seem to be working and I can't figure out if i'm actually gaining xp in the skill.
Actually, I just started doing meditative breathing today - for a variety of reasons including regaining focus and increasing stamina while drawing.
If I understand correctly, meditation works best (or only works) if you don't put any result-oriented expectations / pressure on yourself. For analytical people like myself this is rather difficult because I'm always evaluating and judging everything I do to see if I'm making progress. In other words, I'm split between the past present and future. Meditation focuses just on the present moment. Inhale, exhale :)