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imho just remove from win10 what you dont like , linux is not better at all
all those data gatherings can be turned off

much easier than to start finetuning linux to your liking and many apps wont run on linux , while you can run nearly all linux apps on win10
How about Nuvola Player. Admittedly, I haven't tried it, but it's FOSS, and claims to be able to play Amazon Music, as well as others.
Post edited December 02, 2020 by hummer010
The best thing you can do right now is go back to Windows. Or try Mac OS. Or an enterprise-supported Linux distribution with paid support.

You are not ready to use a community-driven Linux distribution.
Post edited December 02, 2020 by vv221
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makasouleater69: It looks like i would be at it for 1000 plus hours, and i would still have no amazon hd music, no dobly sound, no matter what i did.
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Time4Tea: I think you are exaggerating. There are almost certainly ways to do the things you want to do in Linux. I know for a fact that it is possible to get surround sound in Linux (but it may depend on how well your specific sound card is supported). You are switching to a new OS - it is going to take some time and patience to get things working perfectly the way you want. If you don't have that time/patience, Linux might not be for you.
Its not a sound card, it is intel hd hdmi. Dolby atmos is only through hdmi. There is no other way to take a 7.2 surround sound home theather and make it work with windows, and im gonna adsume linux with out dolby. The only surround sound that works with pc are like logtiches or creative, with the 3 audio jacks. Those 2 brands of speakers are horrid compared to what you can buy for home theaters, but thats why computer speakers dont even cost as much as the reciver does.

I have time and patients, but not with something that is never going to work.
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hummer010: How about Nuvola Player. Admittedly, I haven't tried it, but it's FOSS, and claims to be able to play Amazon Music, as well as others.
Problem with that it uses amazon website, amazon doesnt offer hd music through its website. I honestly think all these bastards are in league haha. If amazon, intel, nvidia, and gog just made linux stuff it would all work fine. I would even pay for it, to not be bound to microsoft.
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vv221: The best thing you can do right now is go back to Windows. Or try Mac OS. Or an enterprise-supported Linux distribution with paid support.

You are not ready to use a community-driven Linux distribution.
I doubt i will ever be, unless amazon, intel, dolby, and gog support it.

I guess its like leaving steam for gog, if i joined gog, and they told me i had to spend a extra 1000 hours figuring out how to make thier version of the game work, and there was no guarentee the sound would work i would of went to origin.
Post edited December 02, 2020 by makasouleater69
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makasouleater69: That still doesnt fix no hdr, no gysnc, no updated nvida drivers since nvida are bastards and closed sourced them. Not to mention no way to get high quailty music other than pirating it.
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thegreyshadow: what?!? I can listen to APE and FLAC music without problems. My card also supports digital audio and sends it to HDMI when appropriate.

Pirate such music? I can purchase DRM-free FLAC (or mp3, for that matter) music from Deutsche Grammophon; and there are other ways to get other music genres in the same manner. No need to pirate anything. And as others have said, there's spotify for Linux (or youtube in the browser...)

I do not have your problems, and I use Slackware64-current which is pretty barebones in the "automation" department.

Sometimes you don't get Linux until the moment is right, and maybe that moment is yet to come for you. Try something different than Mint and maybe you'll get more successful.

I will elaboate further:

Linux is not necessarily more difficult than anything. Trust me; I've been using it for 20 years as my main operating system. But it's basically a flavor of Unix, and it does things differently than Windows and macOS and thus, as others have pointed out, there's a learning curve involved.

Most hardware is supported now, but nVidia with its insistence on proprietary binary drivers is downright ugly and cumbersome. The surefire way to get things OK in the graphics department is to use Intel graphics, but this is not the best option for gaming. In that case, ATI graphics are usually well supported in Linux.

I would recommend to install it in a dual-boot capacity or in an alternate machine if available and get used to it, experiment with it, and even break things once or twice (with non-critical data of course).

If you know someone like that, ask people who use Linux everyday for work and fun on the best way to do things.

Remember, it's not more difficult nor complicated. It's just different.
I am not sure what deutche is, but i didnt say i couldnt buy lossless music and play it on linux. I said i cant play amazon hd music, buying a bucnh of stuff isnt what i wanted, i wanted a hd streaming thats cheap . Which for 15 a month, that is cheap. Yeah i could buy 1 cd a month i guess and in the end have it all, or just buy the albums which im sure ypu could find some where to buy them, but 15 a month is much better for unlimited access to everything.

Spotify and youtube dont have high quailty streams. I also dont watch netflix or anything like that because even 4k streams look worse than 1080 blu rays do, i gotta rent them and wait , since no one streams blu rays 1080 or 4k.
Post edited December 02, 2020 by makasouleater69
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makasouleater69: Its not a sound card, it is intel hd hdmi. Dolby atmos is only through hdmi. There is no other way to take a 7.2 surround sound home theather and make it work with windows, and im gonna adsume linux with out dolby. The only surround sound that works with pc are like logtiches or creative, with the 3 audio jacks. Those 2 brands of speakers are horrid compared to what you can buy for home theaters, but thats why computer speakers dont even cost as much as the reciver does.

I have time and patients, but not with something that is never going to work.
I have to admit I am not really much of a sound 'connoisseur' (even though I am quite into music). I have 2 speakers that makes noises in response to electrical signals and I am happy enough with that. So, I don't have much experience with the sort of setup you are trying to achieve.

This Arch Linux page states that ALSA supports 7.1 surround sound, but you might have to unmute certain channels to use it. I have no idea what 7.2 surround is, or how it differs to 7.1. This article also says that surround sound in Linux can be done, but it might take some work to set up, such as tweaking things in ALSA, which is not trivial for a new user.

Again, I think you are being hasty in saying it is 'never going to work'. However, settings these things up might take some time/effort, so if you're not willing to spend that time, you will have to go back to Windows.
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makasouleater69: Its not a sound card, it is intel hd hdmi. Dolby atmos is only through hdmi. There is no other way to take a 7.2 surround sound home theather and make it work with windows, and im gonna adsume linux with out dolby. The only surround sound that works with pc are like logtiches or creative, with the 3 audio jacks. Those 2 brands of speakers are horrid compared to what you can buy for home theaters, but thats why computer speakers dont even cost as much as the reciver does.

I have time and patients, but not with something that is never going to work.
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Time4Tea: I have to admit I am not really much of a sound 'connoisseur' (even though I am quite into music). I have 2 speakers that makes noises in response to electrical signals and I am happy enough with that. So, I don't have much experience with the sort of setup you are trying to achieve.

This Arch Linux page states that ALSA supports 7.1 surround sound, but you might have to unmute certain channels to use it. I have no idea what 7.2 surround is, or how it differs to 7.1. This article also says that surround sound in Linux can be done, but it might take some work to set up, such as tweaking things in ALSA, which is not trivial for a new user.

Again, I think you are being hasty in saying it is 'never going to work'. However, settings these things up might take some time/effort, so if you're not willing to spend that time, you will have to go back to Windows.
Yeah i did read rhat one, but it didnt make me believe it would worl woth dolby atmos which is the only way i got it to work on windows. 7.2 means 2 subwoffers. The main reason im just stuck on dolby atmos, ia because i want to buy a 7.2.4 reciever, but atm i dont have enough, do to them being like 1300. Which means 2 front 1 center 2 sides 2 back 2 subs and 4 speakers over head.

Thank you muchly for thr encouragement. If i can find even alittle clue or trail that i believe atmos will work, I am 100 percent try again.
Post edited December 03, 2020 by makasouleater69
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Orkhepaj: imho just remove from win10 what you dont like , linux is not better at all
all those data gatherings can be turned off

much easier than to start finetuning linux to your liking and many apps wont run on linux , while you can run nearly all linux apps on win10
Yeah i ended up having to do that. You can but windows will turn random things on, and add stuff even with shut up windows 10, though i do forget to update it. They turned back on thier anti virus on me the other day, and before that they added some stupid meet me icon at the bottom i thought i had a virus and was about to format.

Anti virus is useless garbage to me, when i ran starbound all it would do is try and go through all 40000 mod files and hang the computer for 5 mins. If i get a virus which I dont recall getting, probaly because i format my computer like every few weeks, some times i wait a month. Then microbastards make u have a stupid microsoft account. Well make is a strong word there, they put stupid nvidia co trol panel on the store and dolby. Then the only way to keep your windows is through thier account. Mind you i randomly switch computers all the time, and sell and buy new ones or just buy new ones. I probley reinstall windows like 30 times a year or more.

Would of been nice to have linux, ita not even the graphics card, i jave a 1060, 2070 super, 5700xt, 2080, and 570 im sure one would work. I so wanted to tell microsoft to delete my account and send them squrrel balls hahaha, but as the south park people do, microsoft has its nipple flaps open and would just go ooooo you dont like it, why dont you go find that other windows program haha.
Post edited December 03, 2020 by makasouleater69
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makasouleater69: Its not a sound card, it is intel hd hdmi. Dolby atmos is only through hdmi. There is no other way to take a 7.2 surround sound home theather and make it work with windows, and im gonna adsume linux with out dolby. The only surround sound that works with pc are like logtiches or creative, with the 3 audio jacks. Those 2 brands of speakers are horrid compared to what you can buy for home theaters, but thats why computer speakers dont even cost as much as the reciver does.

I have time and patients, but not with something that is never going to work.
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Time4Tea: I have to admit I am not really much of a sound 'connoisseur' (even though I am quite into music). I have 2 speakers that makes noises in response to electrical signals and I am happy enough with that. So, I don't have much experience with the sort of setup you are trying to achieve.

This Arch Linux page states that ALSA supports 7.1 surround sound, but you might have to unmute certain channels to use it. I have no idea what 7.2 surround is, or how it differs to 7.1. This article also says that surround sound in Linux can be done, but it might take some work to set up, such as tweaking things in ALSA, which is not trivial for a new user.

Again, I think you are being hasty in saying it is 'never going to work'. However, settings these things up might take some time/effort, so if you're not willing to spend that time, you will have to go back to Windows.
I wanted to let you know you were defentiley right.

Hopefully this guide should help those users of Linux who are new or unsure on how to enable Dolby Atmos, DTS-X, TrueHD, DTS-HD Master Audio, Passthrough on Linux, this should hopefully work on Debian/Ubuntu and Arch based distributions, this guide will bypass PulseAudio Sound server and temporarily disable the sound server and use ALSA instead without having to make any permanent changes to your system and allow Kodi to Passthrough Dolby Atmos, DTS-X, TrueHD, DTS-HD Master Audio, to your AV Receiver to decode.

With adding in this https://kodi.tv which plays all the files, but thaf still leaves me with the proble. of actualy getting them. Then figuring out how games would beable to use it, because games dont actually support dolby atmos but a few.

All that though proves you were defentily right, there are work arounds for it all.
Post edited December 03, 2020 by makasouleater69
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makasouleater69: Hopefully this guide should help those users of Linux who are new or unsure on how to enable Dolby Atmos, DTS-X, TrueHD, DTS-HD Master Audio, Passthrough on Linux, this should hopefully work on Debian/Ubuntu and Arch based distributions, this guide will bypass PulseAudio Sound server and temporarily disable the sound server and use ALSA instead without having to make any permanent changes to your system and allow Kodi to Passthrough Dolby Atmos, DTS-X, TrueHD, DTS-HD Master Audio, to your AV Receiver to decode.
Ok, that's great. I'm glad you found something to help you get it working. So, it seems you have to disable PulseAudio and use ALSA direct. PulseAudio is a sound server that runs on top of ALSA (the Linux kernel-level sound system), to make controlling the sound system a bit more user-friendly. I don't use PulseAudio, however, because I think it's superfluous. I just use ALSA direct and it works absolutely fine.

Another Linux sound server you might want to look into is JACK, which runs on top of ALSA like PulseAudio, but is much better and aimed more for professional-level audio. It supports lower latency for things like recording, for example.

My general advice to you, as a new user and especially someone who is trying to achieve a fairly advanced setup, is to be patient and tackle one thing at a time. Don't burn your bridges with Windows right away. Use a dual-boot setup, so you can go back to Windows if you need to, but start doing some things in Linux; learn the basics and build on it from there. Prioritize what the issues are and tackle them one at a time. Start off with the graphics card and get the drivers for that sorted, then move on to the surround sound. You need to be patient, because it will take some time and trying to tackle 6 or 7 advanced things at once as a new user, to achieve a complex setup, just isn't very realistic.
Post edited December 03, 2020 by Time4Tea
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makasouleater69: I am not sure what deutche is, but i didnt say i couldnt buy lossless music and play it on linux. I said i cant play amazon hd music, buying a bucnh of stuff isnt what i wanted, i wanted a hd streaming thats cheap . Which for 15 a month, that is cheap. Yeah i could buy 1 cd a month i guess and in the end have it all, or just buy the albums which im sure ypu could find some where to buy them, but 15 a month is much better for unlimited access to everything.

Spotify and youtube dont have high quailty streams. I also dont watch netflix or anything like that because even 4k streams look worse than 1080 blu rays do, i gotta rent them and wait , since no one streams blu rays 1080 or 4k.
Okay, got your point. Let me clarify some points.

1. Deutsche Grammophon is a classical music label which is among the pioneers of digital audio. They know their stuff and their quality is high.

2. You said: "no way to get high quailty music other than pirating it. " Which I showed you it's clearly not correct.
Never tried Amazon HD Music, but there are lots of services which can be used by Linux users.

I wish you the best whether you use Linux, Windows or anything else.
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Time4Tea: -snip-
You are indeed a saint of patience.
Sorry you had a bad experience. I've been on Linux since the 90's. I can not see myself every going back to Windows for anything. Even my job uses Linux. With that said there are some things like GOG Galaxy not on here but the offline installers do work and there other projects like MiniGalaxy, Lutris and GameHub that help making using GOG games a bit easier for those that don't like installing things manually.
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Time4Tea: -snip-
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Darvond: You are indeed a saint of patience.
Well ... I do my best. Lol! :-)