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It's going to have drm-free release. Was PKM rejected by GOG?
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BeatriceElysia: It's going to have drm-free release. Was PKM rejected by GOG?
Is it based on the pathfinder card game? Links would help. Can't see them wanting a card game to compete with Gwent.
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BeatriceElysia: It's going to have drm-free release. Was PKM rejected by GOG?
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nightcraw1er.488: Is it based on the pathfinder card game? Links would help. Can't see them wanting a card game to compete with Gwent.
It's an isometric party based RPG. Chris Avellone works on it.

https://owlcatgames.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmKUH8zMv5s
Post edited April 07, 2018 by amok
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BeatriceElysia: It's going to have drm-free release. Was PKM rejected by GOG?
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nightcraw1er.488: Is it based on the pathfinder card game? Links would help. Can't see them wanting a card game to compete with Gwent.
It appears to be one of those websites that show you lots of pretty graphics and pictures (and BuyMe) icons but little actual coming out and explaining what something is websites.

https://owlcatgames.com/

Sorry, it's one of my beefs with a lot of Open Source software websites. Front page is lots and lots of news and forum links and whatnot but quite often, there's not even a single sentence about what the software is about.

Hmmm, we appear to not even have a card category on the game listings.
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nightcraw1er.488: Is it based on the pathfinder card game? Links would help. Can't see them wanting a card game to compete with Gwent.
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amok: It's an isometric party based RPG. Chris Avellone works on it.

https://owlcatgames.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmKUH8zMv5s
Cool love the isorpgs. It is based on pathfinder. Would be interested to see it come here.

I suppose I should add, the reason I asked is because I played the card game app on iPad and it was really quite bad, however an rpg would be good.
Post edited April 07, 2018 by nightcraw1er.488
Huh, didn't know they were making a game based on that system.

Dunno how I feel about this. There were things in D&D 3.5 that I didn't like (example, how class and cross class skills worked) and seeing as how pathfinder is basically an extension of 3.5...

I suppose if they handle the story and whatnot well enough I may get it... after its been released as a "complete" edition with all DLC and stuff more than likely. (Lets face it, there will be DLC, there always are some kind of DLC...)
Probably just the Beta that's not coming to gog, while it's planned to release the finished version on here (looks like it at least):

"[i]Where do I choose Steam, GoG or game portal download?

You will get an e-mail with a link to the Pathfinder: Kingmaker backer portal when the campaign is over. On the site, you will be able to confirm your pledge and choose on which platform you would like to get Pathfinder: Kingmaker.[/i]"

kickstarter.com/projects/owlcatgames/pathfinder-kingmaker/faqs
Post edited April 07, 2018 by Spinnert
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molerat: Huh, didn't know they were making a game based on that system.

Dunno how I feel about this. There were things in D&D 3.5 that I didn't like (example, how class and cross class skills worked) and seeing as how pathfinder is basically an extension of 3.5...
Since you bring it up, Pathfinder actually changes the class/cross class skill rules. In Pathfinder, class skills get a +3 bonus if you put at least one skill point in them, but otherwise there's no difference between them and cross class skills. And you can spend a trait (ie half a feat) to get (almost) any skill of your choice as a class skill, along with a +1 bonus to that skill. Obviously whether that will be possible in the game will depend on whether they implement traits, but it looks like they're being reasonably comprehensive.
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molerat: Huh, didn't know they were making a game based on that system.

Dunno how I feel about this. There were things in D&D 3.5 that I didn't like (example, how class and cross class skills worked) and seeing as how pathfinder is basically an extension of 3.5...
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pi4t: Since you bring it up, Pathfinder actually changes the class/cross class skill rules. In Pathfinder, class skills get a +3 bonus if you put at least one skill point in them, but otherwise there's no difference between them and cross class skills. And you can spend a trait (ie half a feat) to get (almost) any skill of your choice as a class skill, along with a +1 bonus to that skill. Obviously whether that will be possible in the game will depend on whether they implement traits, but it looks like they're being reasonably comprehensive.
Thats good to hear. That was one of my biggest gripes with 3/3.5 and the computer games based off of it.

That makes me a bit more interested, but still I'll probably wait until the game has been out long enough to get a price drop or a bigger discount before I consider putting money into it.

I'm slightly curious as to what else changed. Is there a primer available that shows what they changed from 3.5 in pathfinder?

EDIT: I found a little something about my question, may or may not be comprehensive, but a good start for anyone who was wondering the same thing I was:
https://rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/1/differences-between-dd-3-5-and-pathfinder
Post edited April 07, 2018 by molerat
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pi4t: Since you bring it up, Pathfinder actually changes the class/cross class skill rules. In Pathfinder, class skills get a +3 bonus if you put at least one skill point in them, but otherwise there's no difference between them and cross class skills. And you can spend a trait (ie half a feat) to get (almost) any skill of your choice as a class skill, along with a +1 bonus to that skill. Obviously whether that will be possible in the game will depend on whether they implement traits, but it looks like they're being reasonably comprehensive.
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molerat: Thats good to hear. That was one of my biggest gripes with 3/3.5 and the computer games based off of it.

That makes me a bit more interested, but still I'll probably wait until the game has been out long enough to get a price drop or a bigger discount before I consider putting money into it.

I'm slightly curious as to what else changed. Is there a primer available that shows what they changed from 3.5 in pathfinder?

EDIT: I found a little something about my question, may or may not be comprehensive, but a good start for anyone who was wondering the same thing I was:
https://rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/1/differences-between-dd-3-5-and-pathfinder
That's pretty comprehensive, although it's worth noting that there's a lot of splatbooks of content for Pathfinder that didn't exist in 3.5. Notable ones include the Oracle (to the cleric as the sorcerer is to the wizard), the Alchemist (does what it says on the tin, a sort of quasi-spellcaster focussed on buffs) and magus (a class mixing magic and physical combat which actually works well and is fun to play). Conversely, almost nothing from 3.5 outside Core has made it into Pathfinder, mostly for legal reasons. Psionics is also available as a (very good) third party addon, although it's unlikely it'll make it into the computer game because of the third party thing. There are also several other excellent third party addons adapting more obscure 3.5 systems, or introducing new ones, but again that's unlikely to show up in the computer game.

Concentration is no longer a skill. Instead, for a concentration check you roll 1d20+caster level + casting ability modifier (not constitution). This makes constitution slightly less useful for casters, but also makes your concentration modifier harder to improve since you can't take things like Skill Focus.

Races have generally had their statlines buffed to give a net +2 to ability scores compared with 3.5's +0. Elves are now actually a decent choice for casters!

Pathfinder does also have its fair share of issues. Most notably, there are an awful lot of very weak choices of feats, class abilities, prestige classes, etc, particularly when you go into more obscure material. The developers also have an odd resistance to giving out decent abilities that don't have a limited number of uses per day. (In one recent attempt to do so, they somehow ended up making the class ability in question even more limited than usual!) This also contributes to a "martials can't have nice things" aspect to the game, particularly at higher levels. And of course linear warriors/quadratic wizards is still in effect.

Still, though, I've enjoyed playing the system for several years now (although recently, I've switched to using an excellent pair of third party addons called Spheres of Power/Spheres of Might which replace the normal spellcasting system and let your martial characters have an actual combat style. Recommended if you ever decide to play pnp Pathfinder).