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Posted September 09, 2015
This time, you're playing for keeps.

<span class="bold">Dungeons 2</span>, an ode to a classic with a brand new twist, is available now, DRM-free on GOG.com. The game comes complete with GOG Galaxy Support for Achievements, and a 50% launch discount.


The Ultimate Evil, the Dungeon Lord is back, with a burning vengeance and malice. Dungeons 2 is an homage to the classic Dungeon Keeper games, but it also introduces its own twists and interesting improvements, all to strike just about the ideal balance between the new and the classic. Fans of the original dungeon keeping experiences are sure to find plenty of familiar joy here, while stumbling upon things that are new, fun, or just plain better. In Dungeons 2 you'll not only create your own dungeon of doom & gloom, but also expand into the foreign outerworld to take the fight straight to your enemies.
Narrated by Kevan Brighting (the star of the Stanley Parable) Dungeons 2 is a game that puts fun and whimsy first - in a true, classic spirit.

There's a treasure buried deep in the lairs of ancient dragons, nasty, devious creatures bent on taking over the world. Fight fire with fire, and unleash your evil upon the dragon invasion. But first, you'll have to pick up <span class="bold">Dungeons 2: A Chance of Dragons</span>, the hefty add-on with over 10 hours of gameplay, all-new enemies and fiery challenges.


Keep up with <span class="bold">Dungeons 2</span> available now, DRM-free on GOG.com. The launch discount will last for four days, until Sunday, September 13, 1:59 PM GMT.

Stream watch:

Tune in to Twitch.tv/GOGcom and see this Dungeon Keeper homage in action with MegapiemanPHD - his stream goes live on Thursday, September 10th, at 4pm GMT (that's 6pm CEST, 12pm EDT, or 9am PDT)!
Posted September 10, 2015
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Crosmando: What was Dungeons 1 like?
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Siannah: An attempt to mix Dungeon Keeper with Theme Park. It came out as weird and odd as it sounds like - though not in a good way.
Hah, yep. I remember playing that for about an hour and just noped.

This one is a huge improvement, and actually plays like a typical 'dungeon keeping' game.

edit: just found out that there's no multiplayer against bots/AI option. There's a skirmish mode is basically a single scenario that pits you in your own dungeon, creating a base and so on, then finding the portal to the overworld and eventually defeating the people up there.

That's disappointing.
Post edited September 10, 2015 by micktiegs_8
Posted September 10, 2015
At a glance, Dungeons 2 and War For The Overworld have similar mean critic scores. But this is a pretty shallow assessment. Anyone have thoughts on the comparison? I know this sale on D2 won't last forever, and I don't really want to buy both, and especially not outside of my gog account unless highly justified.
Posted September 10, 2015
In case nobody has mentioned it yet, this game is missing from the "New" list.
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Posted September 10, 2015
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Matruchus: War of the Overworld is an indie game that was made in the likes of Dungeon Keeper and is only available on Steam for now since it depends a lot on steam api and the drm-free version will be only available for people who buy directly from the dev store (as a free bonus) since its going to be a downstripped version of the game - again cause of high steam integration). Dungeons II (Kalypso game) is kind of a mix of Dungeon Keeper with RTS elements with the battles in the overworld (looks like Warcraft 3 that part of the game).

Eitherway nice to see Dungeons 2 here. Wishlisted.
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vanchann: It seems that the DRM-free version of War for the Overworld is available on Humble Bundle.

EDIT: Another version with bonuses is available too:
War for the Overworld Underlord Edition
It is worth noting that the DRM free version has many important feature stripped out.

Like DLC, Underlord edition content and such. IT IS NOTHING SMALL LIKE STEAM ACHIEVEMENT ONLY. So I am 99% sure GoG will not bring a game like that here.

Here is their official announcement

And explanation on kickstarter


Please correct me if the Humble Bundle version of it actually give you the Underlord content DRM free.

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mothwentbad: At a glance, Dungeons 2 and War For The Overworld have similar mean critic scores. But this is a pretty shallow assessment. Anyone have thoughts on the comparison? I know this sale on D2 won't last forever, and I don't really want to buy both, and especially not outside of my gog account unless highly justified.
Sorry I miss your post, but as I said earlier. The developers of WFTO does not plan to support the DRM free version of it. It's expansion, DLC, and extra content will be steam only. The DRM free is only offer the vanilla version.

If you mind incompleteness, and DRM free, then Dungeons 2 may be a better investment, although it does not play exactly like the old dungeon keeper.
Post edited September 10, 2015 by Gnostic
Posted September 10, 2015
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vanchann: It seems that the DRM-free version of War for the Overworld is available on Humble Bundle.

EDIT: Another version with bonuses is available too:
War for the Overworld Underlord Edition
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Gnostic: It is worth noting that the DRM free version has many important feature stripped out.

Like DLC, Underlord edition content and such. IT IS NOTHING SMALL LIKE STEAM ACHIEVEMENT ONLY. So I am 99% sure GoG will not bring a game like that here.

Here is their official announcement

And explanation on kickstarter

Please correct me if the Humble Bundle version of it actually give you the Underlord content DRM free.
The developer FAQ and the Humble page for Underlord Edition seem to contradict each other. Right at the top, the Humble page specifically advertises that a DRM free Underlord edition is available with the bundle.

So that's odd. Maybe the developer FAQ is outdated? If they solved a tech problem or something, then there's some chance that they could change their minds later. They shouldn't expect too much outcry if they don't promise something but later deliver it.

It still makes me less than confident in the chances of a gog release, though. D2 has fairly lacking review scores, but a lot of people seem to think that it's fun for what it is. I'm still tempted to risk it.
Posted September 10, 2015
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jalister: Unfortunately I couldn't fit "More Linux games and less games that require online accounts for multiplayer" in that space.
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Klumpen0815: I meant, that games without a Linux port are not really DRM-free, since you need a DRMed system in order to play them.
I'm so tired of DRM. I've seen it break so many times. I dumped things like MS Office and Photoshop years ago, and I couldn't be happier about it. Now if I could just completey dump Windows.

I have three critical applications that are Windows only, and a large number of games.

DRM free has paid of big for me. With the current state of Desura in bankruptcy, I can rest easy knowing I have all my purchases downloaded and backed up. To me that is way more convenient than having steam patch my games.
Posted September 10, 2015
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Gnostic: It is worth noting that the DRM free version has many important feature stripped out.

Like DLC, Underlord edition content and such. IT IS NOTHING SMALL LIKE STEAM ACHIEVEMENT ONLY. So I am 99% sure GoG will not bring a game like that here.

Here is their official announcement

And explanation on kickstarter

Please correct me if the Humble Bundle version of it actually give you the Underlord content DRM free.
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mothwentbad: The developer FAQ and the Humble page for Underlord Edition seem to contradict each other. Right at the top, the Humble page specifically advertises that a DRM free Underlord edition is available with the bundle.

So that's odd. Maybe the developer FAQ is outdated? If they solved a tech problem or something, then there's some chance that they could change their minds later. They shouldn't expect too much outcry if they don't promise something but later deliver it.

It still makes me less than confident in the chances of a gog release, though. D2 has fairly lacking review scores, but a lot of people seem to think that it's fun for what it is. I'm still tempted to risk it.
I've learnt to trust my own opinion in the end.

As for dated stuff, their website also says 'DRM free coming soon' on the humble widget, and it has been out for weeks. I also read, and was rather annoyed; that one of the staffers had basically said they will dump DRM free, MAC and Linux support in their next game because it's not "feasible". I shit you not. I was so pumped to see that game hit 1.0, then felt major disappointment when there was not going to be a DRM free version for quite some time after (got a humble refund), THEN I read that kinda crap... Simply icing on the 'don't bother supporting that developer' cake.
Posted September 10, 2015
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mothwentbad: The developer FAQ and the Humble page for Underlord Edition seem to contradict each other. Right at the top, the Humble page specifically advertises that a DRM free Underlord edition is available with the bundle.

So that's odd. Maybe the developer FAQ is outdated? If they solved a tech problem or something, then there's some chance that they could change their minds later. They shouldn't expect too much outcry if they don't promise something but later deliver it.

It still makes me less than confident in the chances of a gog release, though. D2 has fairly lacking review scores, but a lot of people seem to think that it's fun for what it is. I'm still tempted to risk it.
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micktiegs_8: I've learnt to trust my own opinion in the end.

As for dated stuff, their website also says 'DRM free coming soon' on the humble widget, and it has been out for weeks. I also read, and was rather annoyed; that one of the staffers had basically said they will dump DRM free, MAC and Linux support in their next game because it's not "feasible". I shit you not. I was so pumped to see that game hit 1.0, then felt major disappointment when there was not going to be a DRM free version for quite some time after (got a humble refund), THEN I read that kinda crap... Simply icing on the 'don't bother supporting that developer' cake.
I'm not sure wether to pick "valve's cunning plan paying off for small devs" or "lazy devs going for the path of least resistance" when i read your post. Good thing there still are exceptions.
Posted September 10, 2015
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mothwentbad: The developer FAQ and the Humble page for Underlord Edition seem to contradict each other. Right at the top, the Humble page specifically advertises that a DRM free Underlord edition is available with the bundle.

So that's odd. Maybe the developer FAQ is outdated? If they solved a tech problem or something, then there's some chance that they could change their minds later. They shouldn't expect too much outcry if they don't promise something but later deliver it.

It still makes me less than confident in the chances of a gog release, though. D2 has fairly lacking review scores, but a lot of people seem to think that it's fun for what it is. I'm still tempted to risk it.
I am sorry to dash your hopes, I am a post kickstarter backer for WFTO.

As shown in the attached pictures, the files at humble bundle is only 1.7 GB, but the steam version is 4.2GB. So I conclude there is tons of content that the DRM free version don't have. I hope that I am wrong too, for a moment I entertain the thought that, maybe if I buy the Underlord edition I will have the added content DRM free too. But that would not make sense that the developers are withholding content from their backers.

Maybe someone contact humble or the devs for false advertisement? If someone have a DRM free edition of the Underlord edition legally, then I must have a word with the devs for screwing their backers a second time.
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Posted September 10, 2015
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mothwentbad: The developer FAQ and the Humble page for Underlord Edition seem to contradict each other. Right at the top, the Humble page specifically advertises that a DRM free Underlord edition is available with the bundle.

So that's odd. Maybe the developer FAQ is outdated? If they solved a tech problem or something, then there's some chance that they could change their minds later. They shouldn't expect too much outcry if they don't promise something but later deliver it.

It still makes me less than confident in the chances of a gog release, though. D2 has fairly lacking review scores, but a lot of people seem to think that it's fun for what it is. I'm still tempted to risk it.
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Gnostic: I am sorry to dash your hopes, I am a post kickstarter backer for WFTO.

As shown in the attached pictures, the files at humble bundle is only 1.7 GB, but the steam version is 4.2GB. So I conclude there is tons of content that the DRM free version don't have. I hope that I am wrong too, for a moment I entertain the thought that, maybe if I buy the Underlord edition I will have the added content DRM free too. But that would not make sense that the developers are withholding content from their backers.

Maybe someone contact humble or the devs for false advertisement? If someone have a DRM free edition of the Underlord edition legally, then I must have a word with the devs for screwing their backers a second time.
Could be that the Steam version contains both the 32bit and 64bit versions of the game while Humble Bundle offers them as a separate download, can't say this for sure since I don't have access to the game files.
Posted September 10, 2015
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Gnostic:
You're right.

There's a link to the game's FAQ on the Humble Bundle page too. Based on it, features which are not depended on Steam should be included in the DRM-free version. I mean that the campaign and basic unit sets should be complete, but the game won't be extendable with DLCs.

I don't own the game to be sure though.
Post edited September 10, 2015 by vanchann
Posted September 10, 2015
Yes! Dungeons II on GOG!
I'll have to wait for the Linux version though...
Posted September 10, 2015
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Posted September 10, 2015
$53!? Well that'll need a heavy discount before I'll consider it! I mean heavy, like 90%.
Posted September 11, 2015
Well, I went ahead and bought it. I sort of agree with the 2-star review so far, though. The humor is way forced and super-formulaic. It's the kind of thing I'd enjoy back when I was ten years old, maybe.

It's only been two missions, and I can hope that the unit cap will become liftable. And the first two missions are just about un-loseable. The script gifts you with mission-critical units and respawns them if they die. Which is actually sort of a nice thing, since replaying kind of sucks sometimes, but it's also pretty mindless. But they sort of have to do it that way because the mission is pretty much scripted so that you have to do what they tell you to do to have a chance.

I might play some more and see if it gets better. RTS does have a mean learning curve in general, so the slow pace and pandering might not be a bad idea, even if the humor is grating and the top-world RTS thingy is not especially necessary.

From the sound of things, the RTS innovation is a lot less obnoxious than the innovations in Dungeons 1. So at least there's that.

I still have hope that this game may be worth the trouble if you can brush off the narrator's cheese.
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