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Time for another launch break!

Making History, the first expansion pack for Kerbal Space Program is now available, DRM-free on GOG.com.
Your favorite aspiring space explorers return! Now armed with dozens of new parts, they will take on missions inspired by humanity's own (mis)adventures in space, played out in hilarious Kerbal fashion. For some more variety, though, you should totally check out the Mission Builder, a new way of building and editing your own missions up to your wackiest, most challenging specifications.
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falloutttt: what would be funny tho, is if they acctualy did downloaded your family archive. hahaha ;)
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drmike: Oh no. Stuff like that never happens: /deadpan

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/drm_is_bad_but_this_takes_it_to_the_next_level_flight_sim_company_adds_malware_as_drm/

"But it only activates on pirattezz copies!!!"
-- The owner
I could write a Bible here on how much stupidity is to bundle a virus or a backdoor in a software, even if it only actives on 'some' cases, but you can actually find all reasons searching, so I won't lose my time.

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Lukaszmik: Now that Take 2 bought it out, and forced an EULA change on former backers with gems like "all UR dataz R belong to us!" clauses, they can fuck right off.
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Lin545: Right. They already downloaded my family video archive and I am just 1 minute into the game.

/(do I need to write sarcasm here, well ok - ) SARCASM.
If you shit about your privacy or agree with their EULA that's ok, but there's no reason to mock on those who do care about their privacy or don't agree with the EULA. The telemetry data they collect is enough to do a hell lot of stuff much worse than get my stupid family photos.

I, for once, have agreed to T2 EULA because none of the topic concerned me except the privacy policy, but then I can just block Kerbal from accessing the internet. To me their EULA is quite ok, last I remember EA's was far worse, but then I haven't bought one of their [s]craps[/s] games in ages. But I can understand why others might not agree with the new terms, though I would gladly point to the specific areas showing it's not that different from the last one.
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An_dz: If you shit about your privacy or agree with their EULA that's ok, but there's no reason to mock on those who do care about their privacy or don't agree with the EULA. The telemetry data they collect is enough to do a hell lot of stuff much worse than get my stupid family photos.

I, for once, have agreed to T2 EULA because none of the topic concerned me except the privacy policy, but then I can just block Kerbal from accessing the internet. To me their EULA is quite ok, last I remember EA's was far worse, but then I haven't bought one of their [s]craps[/s] games in ages. But I can understand why others might not agree with the new terms, though I would gladly point to the specific areas showing it's not that different from the last one.
Well, I do care about healthy amount of privacy, or I would not be using GOG.
What I also care about are facts and fact-based discussion - because they make helluvalot difference and are capable of stopping wars.

You want to block binary - fine, but I won't because T2 tries to understand how much of those clicking on purchase promo, have then started the expansion.

T2 EULA is horrid, but its comparable to other big company EULAs in every way. KSP is modern still actively developed game and very unique, backed and developed by (relatively to the big IT sharks) small company. Its not an old finished game that needs nearly no support.
A monstrous EULA over old finished game would be pretty bad, like what happened to Starcraft 1 (original, non-rebased), but for modern active unique game - with choice of a) dying by running out of money and b) big company getting it and investing into further development, which I see currently happening, I vote b.

If big company needs to pull its standard monstrous license on it, like it does on every other title it gets, I am fine until they start to actually use the horror part of that EULA, like in-game currency, paid mods, microtransactions, drm and so on. Basically, I am fine so long it just speaks about it on paper, but does not touch the game.
Especially because KSP has been and continues to stay completely drm-free everywhere, with huge modding support and available for Linux - I am fine.

Till now I found no bad change, except an extra ping to very known marketing company and prior to T2 ksp has been pinging anyway, - because every Unity game does telemetry. Nothing changed in the game structure, in concept, in availability. You are still free to broadcast, do gameplays for money, share stuff you create inside the game, make mods.
What I see positive, - is very good overhaul of parts, translations, fixing of bugs plus big expansion with more content.

TL;DR, its a standard T2 license that any T2 title gets; not much went bad, but lots went good; what is in the license does not actually mean that all or any of that stuff makes it into the game; revolts against stupid license (which is justified from corporate POI, but horrid from customer perspective) are fine; blocking is fine; helping the free software equivalent like Open Space Program is fine (because competition is fine); and if next release of ksp does something stupid - reporting. researching and revolting against evidence that was actually found is fine likewise. But since ksp is drm-free and not integrated into steamy or other galaxy, that requires being online, I am personally fine too. But again, - its just me, as I differentiate between whats claimed and what actually happens in the binary.
Post edited March 14, 2018 by Lin545
Just to throw this link out, we discussed Kerbal and it's information gathering a few weeks ago and how to block it:

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/does_kerbal_or_any_other_unity_game_leak_information_aka_telemetry

May warrant a read.
Now this is some pretty extreme form of regional pricing: $35.43, and $20.44 would go to my wallet... 136% over base price as regional surcharge (35.43 / 14.99 * 100 - 100).
Post edited March 14, 2018 by huan
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Lin545: Till now I found no bad change
well, from what I read they did take out the popup dialog that informs you about the telemetry stuff that KSP wants to send home and (importantly) gave you the option to opt out. That is gone.
I call that a bad change, especially combined with the new (shitty) legal terms and the silently added new usage tracking.

All that telemetry stuff might be even acceptable. If only the company were open about it and explained what information is collected and where it is sent.
But if users only find out about it when they see data being sent to the internet and have to examine themselves what goes on there, what data is collected, where is the data sent and who is this company that collects the data, then any goodwill on my part is flying out of the window.

communication is important. that's really not such a hard concept to grasp.

same thing with introducing the new legal terms. Would it have been so hard for Take2 to take the time to answer the numerous questions and concerns in the official forum to bring some clarity ?
Instead they just watch the emotions boil over until the thread is locked. well, good job :/

aside from that I have to say that the new Privacy Policy is total bullshit. It is probably Take2's "one fits all" policy that is supposed to cover just about everything they bring on the market. Meaning it is phrased overly broad and vague.
As a player of KSP it just gives me no concrete information what data is actually retrieved and collected.(or maybe I just missed it inside the huge jungle of things "they may do").
Reading my daily horoscope probably gives me more practical useful information :p

Take2 definitely deserves to get shit for the way they handled this.
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huan: Now this is some pretty extreme form of regional pricing: $35.43, and $20.44 would go to my wallet... 136% over base price as regional surcharge (35.43 / 14.99 * 100 - 100).
sounds like a pricing error
notify support ...
Post edited March 14, 2018 by immi101
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immi101: ...
Great info, immi101! I can only agree.
Question : Are the user created contents compatible with the add-on ?
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huan: Now this is some pretty extreme form of regional pricing: $35.43, and $20.44 would go to my wallet... 136% over base price as regional surcharge (35.43 / 14.99 * 100 - 100).
Hi,

That was an error on our side and has been fixed. Really sorry about that!
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i_hope_you_rot: Question : Are the user created contents compatible with the add-on ?
this option will be available in the future, via monthly paying plan for only 99.99$/month.

just kidding. they simply take your mod/s and pack it into a DLC and sell it back to you.
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falloutttt: this option will be available in the future, via monthly paying plan for only 99.99$/month.
just kidding. they simply take your mod/s and pack it into a DLC and sell it back to you.
JPLRepo, TriggerAu and RoverDude are Squad members, who are responsible for the game, for DLC and A LOT of mods out there. How can this be, that they write game and they write mods?

Perhaps, the better question would be - how many mods have you written, so that fear is justified? Or you can tell about any mod that they have taken and sold you back?

Them, facts.
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i_hope_you_rot: Question : Are the user created contents compatible with the add-on ?
Yes, this Kerbal DLC is just like an expansion, it doesn't change the game, just adds more stuff.

What might be incompatible is the 1.4.0 update – which is required for this DLC –, many mods have not been updated to 1.4 yet.

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Lin545: What I also care about are facts and fact-based discussion
Which is also my view, and the reason I complained about your sarcastic reply.
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immi101: aside from that I have to say that the new Privacy Policy is total bullshit. It is probably Take2's "one fits all" policy that is supposed to cover just about everything they bring on the market. Meaning it is phrased overly broad and vague.
As a player of KSP it just gives me no concrete information what data is actually retrieved and collected.(or maybe I just missed it inside the huge jungle of things "they may do").
I have a couple of issues with the new Privacy Policy forced by Take 2.

First of all... I entered a contract with the Squad upon purchase based on certain terms. The fact that another party now comes into equation and literally forces me to accept new terms (having already parted with the money), is hardly acceptable.

Not only that... as you mentioned, the boilerplate EULA from Take 2 is so broadly phrased that it basically amounts to demanding permission to access any data from my computer. Do I think they will do that? Unlikely. Am I pissed off that suddenly it's an acceptable business practice in paid games, all of a sudden? Absolutely.

Not to mention that the talk about EULAs has recently shifted from clueless, but very helpful, idiots changing the tune from "EULA, who reads them, they aren't binding anyway" of about a decade ago to "well, everybody's EULA is the same anyway so what's the problem."

It's a mission creep. Fuck it, pretty soon you will have to submit a blood sample and iris scan along with deeding your firstbord to the company for the privilege of accessing something you already paid for.

It should have been on Take 2 to ensure the new legal terms are at worst identical to the previous in terms of what they are allowed to do. This whole bullshit about customers having no say in a goddamn contractual transaction has to end somewhere.
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falloutttt: this option will be available in the future, via monthly paying plan for only 99.99$/month.
just kidding. they simply take your mod/s and pack it into a DLC and sell it back to you.
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Lin545: JPLRepo, TriggerAu and RoverDude are Squad members, who are responsible for the game, for DLC and A LOT of mods out there. How can this be, that they write game and they write mods?

Perhaps, the better question would be - how many mods have you written, so that fear is justified? Or you can tell about any mod that they have taken and sold you back?

Them, facts.
sarcasm. ;)