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So, gog is really struggling financially and has to resort to begging. Sad.

But then again, they already resorted to abandoning all their principles, including DRM-free, years ago.
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Cavalary: GOG gift codes have no region restrictions. In fact, they can even be redeemed by people who couldn't purchase the games in question themselves, because they're blocked in their region. So gift codes are treated as region-less purchases and priced accordingly if purchased from regions that benefit from discounts in case of buying the games normally.
And, perhaps more importantly from a business perspective, this prevents people from (or with VPNs from) regions that benefit from massive discounts from purchasing cheap codes and then trading or selling them for more.
That makes sense. TY for the balloon help. (:
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Shmacky-McNuts: Providing original files makes more sense. Its something staff can provide right now. That is actual preservation and works great for cross platforming by default. Obviously the gog version will be the default, but having original files, minus DRM makes sense. Put the originals in the drop down menu, so noobs dont get that by accident.

Plus having the last best known to function Win10 version in the drop menu would be even better, for those unable to move to Win11.
Exactly this. That would make GOG stand out. But again, I fear GOG can only offer what the publisher allows.

Also maintaining 2-3 previous installer versions in case an update does something not everybody might like so you can still back it up after the fact.
Post edited April 03, 2025 by idbeholdME
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Shmacky-McNuts: Providing original files makes more sense. Its something staff can provide right now. That is actual preservation and works great for cross platforming by default. Obviously the gog version will be the default, but having original files, minus DRM makes sense. Put the originals in the drop down menu, so noobs dont get that by accident.

Plus having the last best known to function Win10 version in the drop menu would be even better, for those unable to move to Win11.
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idbeholdME: Exactly this. That would make GOG stand out. But again, I fear GOG can only offer what the publisher allows.

Also maintaining 2-3 previous installer versions in case an update does something not everybody might like so you can still back it up after the fact.
Nothing to stop gog staff. They already have previous versions, when each game is updated. The staff CHOOSE to not provide this. Which is ironic, because, gog would have more customers flocking to them over steam. Respecting customers, earn loyalty. Dismissing customers= upset and derision.
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Well ideal has gone bye bye that is hardly an improvement for Dutch customers.
Any idea when that wil return or are we just SOL.
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snowkatt: Well ideal has gone bye bye that is hardly an improvement for Dutch customers.
Any idea when that wil return or are we just SOL.
WTF?! I guess that's the end of me spending any money here... :/
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snowkatt: Well ideal has gone bye bye that is hardly an improvement for Dutch customers.
Any idea when that wil return or are we just SOL.
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gogtrial34987: WTF?! I guess that's the end of me spending any money here... :/
Ideal has gone bye bye
And gog is nice and transparent about it as usual.
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gogtrial34987: WTF?! I guess that's the end of me spending any money here... :/
Sorry to hear(also sad news for others who used it). I recall you saying you had quite the collection.
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snowkatt: Ideal has gone bye bye
And gog is nice and transparent about it as usual.
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Post edited April 10, 2025 by Just2Much
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I see from the other thread that the ideal integration broke (didn't show banks anymore - probably because of changes related to ideal pushing those annoying profiles), and GOG only removed it after that. So that gives me hope that it's a simple bug that they'll (eventually) fix - with the feature simply hidden in the interim to not give a bad user experience - rather than a conscious and deliberate decision to remove it.
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gogtrial34987: I see from the other thread that the ideal integration broke (didn't show banks anymore - probably because of changes related to ideal pushing those annoying profiles), and GOG only removed it after that. So that gives me hope that it's a simple bug that they'll (eventually) fix - with the feature simply hidden in the interim to not give a bad user experience - rather than a conscious and deliberate decision to remove it.
It would be nice if they told us that, in any way shape or form.
But that's probably expecting too much as usual.
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gogtrial34987: I see from the other thread that the ideal integration broke (didn't show banks anymore - probably because of changes related to ideal pushing those annoying profiles), and GOG only removed it after that. So that gives me hope that it's a simple bug that they'll (eventually) fix - with the feature simply hidden in the interim to not give a bad user experience - rather than a conscious and deliberate decision to remove it.
Ah, to be so idealistic. I imagine what has happened is that they got migration notices from Ideal, a deadline, and then they promptly ignored it to sit on their chairs and spin in circles until their fresh fruit came spinning up the wrong tube.

In a less metaphorical sense, I think it was put off until it was too late, even if it was functionally simple to switch.
Haven't seen this thread hidden in the stickies...

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00063: Wait... first they break games with their dumb marketing stunt, provide NO rollback feature or previous version for offline installers and now they have the audacity to ask us to support this behaviour? ... LOL!!!
Here's a tip for you, just quit with your stupid "Preservation Program" already.
Indeed, I rather would give them money when they would leave good old games alone, provide me original files instead of tainting these games with shop based online features.

When you need money, GOG, perhaps sink less into your online client, which prevents Linux versions coming to the shop, and stop making offline installers 2nd-class citizens!? That would be something I would support!

And of course you have to add this to the checkout page, the most sensible part of the shop. Have you not broken the checkout page already for too long?

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idbeholdME: Also maintaining 2-3 previous installer versions in case an update does something not everybody might like so you can still back it up after the fact.
It already would be a good start when they at least would provide us the same rollback features for the offline installers which they provide with their "optional" client. Of course, having vanilla game versions with original files as a download option would be the dream. :) Then they also could add all the missing Linux versions which were held back because of the lack of client support.

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AlexTerranova: For me the preservation program is a disservice. I have to spend time removing all those wrappers, limiters and other bloatware. Because on Linux most of the games work better in their original state.
Exactly, that's why I also prefer vanilla game versions, not touched by any anti-preservation program. And often vanilla games work better on older Windows versions too.

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angelblue: That's another debate. GOG has already talked about it. The aim is to make the game as comfortable as possible, while respecting the experience of the original game.
But that's exactly the part where GOG also often fails. Incompatibilities, increased system requirements, longer installation times and delays, and general more bloated or even broken games when you do not use the exact same, single one, Galaxy-fied installation they have used for testing.

The sad part is, that GOG apparently already has sunken so much money into the wrong priorities that they seem to search desperately for money now.
Post edited April 26, 2025 by eiii
We do not need rollback support for offline. That would be useless. An entire offline installer of a previous version is simple for staff and does better. No risk of someone not knowing what they are doing screwing around with changes, just uninstall broken, install older version.

Gotta keep it simple.