Please, not another Corona discussion...

He basically says engage with the world, with humans, have relationships with friends, have partnerships in the real world.

Indeed but for people that have issues with social interaction it's simply not as easy as just fix your relationships for a multitude of reasons like the state of the family, diagnoses that hinder social progress, how their communities they are part of handles social interactions etc not just social medias, video games, phones and so on. In short some people need help to integrate into the society if they are outside it.

How so i know ? i have worked with people that have social issues. That's why i said that his analysis sounded "hardcore conservative" because it's the same talking points every single time without a proper solution or look at understanding individual cases.

Roger that, good to see that his point is proven, right here in this forum.

oh, look. the digital natives are back vulcans?

In essence. The setting was a bit sci-fi in nature. The genetics and all that. Can't remember the source, though. Oh well.

well, acording to some we are becoming Borgs


edit to op - the same was claimed when "the youths" got their hands on books and written word, or moving picures, or rock music, or comics, or games, or... whatever they used.... it is just another moral panic

Human 2.0 has arrived and it's dumber than ever. Males think they're females, females think they're males, everyone's racist, sexist, all of the other -ists, has the emotional maturity of a toddler, never wants to leave home, can't eat anything without taking a picture of it and getting 10 likes, can't take a dump without 5 likes, feels the need to show the entire internet what they look like naked, can't look away from their phone for five minutes and must have the phone with them at all times.

Anyone that doesn't agree with absolutely everything is a horrible person that needs to kill themselves or be persecuted until life is completely miserable. All words are offensive because people read too much into things and know better than you what you meant when you said what you said. Nothing is allowed to be funny. Facts are made up on the spot. Someone else is always to blame. Bad behavior is rewarded. Intelligence and wisdom are derided. Nothing is forgotten or forgiven. "Literally" means "figuratively". Greed is still good and ignorance is celebrated. Nahmeen, breh?

What did I leave out?

Honestly want to touch on this a little.

First off, notice how you quickly jump to "nonsensical hardcore conservative social analysis." My point with this is that we've become far more united in polarizing factions than we have in the past. In the past, something like this wouldn't get lumped into the "conservative" or "liberal" mix to begin with. Claiming it would is akin to claiming that the conclusions drawn by the Stanford Prison experiment are conservative because guards beat up prisoners. Politics has invaded everything these days, which only leads to further division and less independent thought.

See, it isn't that the internet has made people more anti-social, it's that the internet revealed just how anti-social people actually are. It's similar to the claims that LGBT is increasing because awareness of LGBT is increasing.

What the internet has done is create an enormous Ashe conformity zone where people get easily influenced by the number of people saying what is right and what is wrong. Likewise it removes the human element of communication -- there are plenty of studies that show text is the worst medium of communication, yet it is the most common medium of the modern age -- which has the effect of reducing that association with someone else as being a real person you're interacting with.

Factions don't help either, "them vs us" mentality and the binary thinking that goes with it.


There is much to be said about this topic, which basically concludes that humans are naturally horrible creatures and the internet has facilitated this trait of ours.

I mean, after all, humans only unite together when there is a common enemy, all other times we fight amongst ourselves and try creating enemies of our neighbors and friends.

I use the term "nonsensical hardcore conservative social analysis" not as a slight but as a matter of fact in context to this post since it regurgitate the exact same conservative talking points but the reality is not that easy, i'm not saying everything conservatives say is nonsensical but this analysis certainly is as it exaggerate many issues while claiming to offer solutions without trying to understand the underlying issue as to why social relations has gotten more lonely and fractured as technology has advanced and only scratches the surface.

Social media. games, phones etc plays a part but it's nowhere the only explanation as i have said earlier. I agree that there's a lot of us vs them mentality nowadays and wish it wasn't so but that wasn't how i meant in my post, it was aimed strictly towards the content of the video and link to website posted in the op.

I should clarify that I wasn't directing at you in particular, but pointing out a general trend that happens these days. More things than should be get labeled as "liberal" or "conservative" to the point that the words no longer retain their original meanings. I was challenging you and others to look at this.

What people claim is " a matter of fact in context " often is simply tribalism. I'm challenging an ingrained belief that all of what you believe are "conservative talking points" actually are "conservative talking points," rather than a simple tribal classification of "Those are conservative beliefs" and "These are Liberal beliefs." Since the reality doesn't hold such easy binary classifications. Remember, exceptions break a classification, constantly redefining your classifications to fit the binary model rather than adding more classifications to fit reality is what actually goes on these days.

God I hate the annoying way modern people use adjectives. No one is accusing you of claiming all conservatives are nonsensical hardcores. You specifically created sub classifications of the root noun "analysis" what type? "Social analysis" what type, conservative social analysis, what type of conservative? A Nonsensical hardcore conservative.... I don't understand why modern people seem to think that using adjectives always implies you're saying a whole group is something.

My point is that conservative is heavily overloaded to the point that you need nonsensical hardcore pro-marriage anti-LGBT uncaring conservative to talk about the specific type of conservative that posted this, and probably could use a fair bit more. "Conservative" just like "liberal" is massively overloaded with all kinds of beliefs, even beliefs that don't need be political.

Binary categorizations aren't natural..

I think it's more like you're dismissing what Psychology tells us is true because there is no proposed action to take. Your responses prior seem to be more of a "so what" rather than the intrigued scientist view..

Again, this can touch on interesting points... people in general don't want to think for themselves, instead they want to be told what is best for them. The psychology of Nazis is truly fascinating, we've learned that most of these people were not fully cognizant of their actions but instead performed them as would an automaton. That the power of the group collective drove them in action, whether you believe in psychology or not is irrelevant though. Such effects are readily seen even in today's society.

If you want a "so what, what do I do" the only answer is to stop letting others influence your beliefs and assert your ability to independently think. The problem is this is a truly difficult thing for people to do, many don't even recognize the extent that their own beliefs have been molded by others.