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Hi guys and gals!

We are working on two much requested improvements to the chat system:

CLEARING A CONVERSATION

You’ll be able to delete messages from a conversation on your end, while keeping the other user on your contacts list. The other person will still have a copy of the conversation in their inbox and will be able to contact you again in the future.

BLOCKING ANOTHER USER

You’ll be able to block another user on chat - they won’t be able to write to you and you won’t be able to contact them. They will disappear from your contacts list and will be added to your list of blocked users. You'll be able to unblock users on a dedicated page in your settings.

Our web team plans to implement these two options within the next 2 weeks.

Let me know if you have any questions, I’ll gather them and pass them over to the web team or get someone from their tech-savvy band to stop by and answer them for you!

EDIT: You will be able to block a user on chat not only via the chat tab itself, but also in the forums via the tooltip that currently lets you add them to friends, view their wishlist or send a message. Therefore, if you see a spammer on the forum, you will be able to pre-emptively block them from contacting you.
Post edited August 05, 2015 by Ciris
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stg83: The reason why these are "much requested" is that they were old features in the previous PM system. So its something that was removed when transitioning to chat and should have been common sense to have them by now. It only took about three months or so to finally bring back "Clear" plus "Block and Report" since they were last indicated to being in the works.

http://www.gog.com/forum/general/my_account_big_changes_on_the_horizon/post399
http://www.gog.com/forum/general/my_account_big_changes_on_the_horizon/post406
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snowkatt: gee just 3 months
with some luck we will get more improvements before 2016 !

and for a "social grunt" our community "manager" isnt on much and doesnt pay attention much either
Sorry if it seems like we were inactive on the issue - from what I understand in terms of workflow here, various tasks are "in progress" for a longer time as they're in plans to be done at some point, or after some other feature is created/fixed/amended. Since I was now able to share that the team is actively coding/testing this functionality, I used the term "working on". Sorry if that wasn't specific enough!

As for other questions/suggestions, I'm forwarding them to the web team to be answered, addressed, or added to the forum improvements list as they appear. I'll get back to you, or ask one of the guys to do so, as soon as we can.
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mike_cesara: Could be blocking possibility tied to account, not user name? Just in case someone change his user name and start his soap drama again.. Also forum post history would be neat feature : )

thank you!
Blocking is tied to account ID - so, even if someone changes their display name, they'll remain blocked on your list until you manually click "unblock" on your account page. Account history is also on the list of features we're planning on introducing in the future.
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Ki11s0n3: That's true.

Does blocking them also mean they can't interact with you on the forums as well, in any way? For example them not being able to affect your rep or see your posts and what not and vise versa.
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Sachys: doubtfull - never did before and by the sounds of it all they are doing is adding back in the same functionality we previously had.
No, it does not - the changes I wrote about are for chat only. However, additional or amended forum functionalities, this one included in the list, are on the drawing board as well for a later time (that I can't yet confirm).
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Ciris: CLEARING A CONVERSATION
BLOCKING ANOTHER USER
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phaolo: - block another user + list:
good, thanks!

- delete messages:
umm.. why? Is this really needed?
If someone is a scammer, I prefer to keep the messages to remeber how he behave.
Also, if people starts deleting conversations, there won't be any sure proof for anything anymore. O_o
Glad you appreciate the blocking option!

As for deleting messages, this can come in useful as well - for instance, if you have a lot of old messages (i.e. from a giveaway or contest, or just a one-off conversation) that you got just once, have nothing more to add, don't keep in touch with the user, etc. It'll help in cleaning up your inbox without banning non-spammers. It's much like deleting an email rather than redirecting all messages from that user to junk/trash and never seeing them in the first place :)
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BillyMaysFan59: Well clearing messages could have other purposes.
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phaolo: Uh, ok then.

Btw, Ciris, remember the alt users problem too, please.
That's issue n1, because it affects reputation and increase scam attempts.
The alt user problem takes more than one solution to resolve - here, we're bringing one or two that can help in keeping at least part of any spam/hate you may get personally at bay. As I've said in some previous posts here, more forum, chat, and other-forms-of-being-social-online features are in various levels of progress, planning, or brainstorming.
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Sachys: wasnt me that asked. O____o
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catpower1980: Too much vodka at the GOG cafeteria during lunchtime I think... :o)
Sorry about that! Were you perhaps in the quoting thread of the person that asked? I'll try and go back to fix it so the right person is quoted, though, thanks!
Post edited August 05, 2015 by Ciris
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GR00T: This is a start, but what was the announced downtime for today about? It couldn't have been features that are coming in a week or so, could it? That wouldn't make any sense.

*Much head scratching.*
As Chamb said, "it was touching only our servers infrastructure, there were no changes to the code of the application at this time."
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Ciris: BLOCKING ANOTHER USER

You’ll be able to block another user on chat - they won’t be able to write to you and you won’t be able to contact them. They will disappear from your contacts list and will be added to your list of blocked users. You'll be able to unblock users on a dedicated page in your settings.
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Starmaker: Please remember the previous version had a giant usability hole - specifically, a user couldn't block someone who already blocked them, and as a result, a competent serial spammer would temporarily unblock victims, discharge the load, then block the victims again before they could react. Please don't mess up this time. Thank you.
This issue will be fixed with the currently-in-development blocking mechanism. As you said, it was previously "one-sided". Now it will work both ways, so even the competent spammer that was then able to spam you this way now won't be. If he unblocks you, spams, then blocks again, his messages will vanish - if he doesn't block you again, you'll block him and never hear from him again.

An important feature that I'll be adding to the main topic as well is that blocking users on chat will also be available through the forum tooltip (where you can start a conversation with them or add them to friends) - this aims to help you avoid personal attacks or spam from users you're already recognizing as ones you want no contact with.
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JMich: I can answer that. The small things are things an employee can respond on his own. The bigger issues are things one has to clear with management before giving an answer.
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snowkatt: that is as maybe
but outright ignoring our criticism doesnt help much either ( ie stonewalling us again ) a prefab awnser of " we are looking in to that" or "i wil get back to you on that" is better then nothing
better then getting ignored at least

because most of us here are getting sick and tired of being ignored while gog pretend to listen to us half asses a "solution"and then pretends its the awnser we have been clamoring for
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Ciris: An important feature that I'll be adding to the main topic as well is that blocking users on chat will also be available through the forum tooltip (where you can start a conversation with them or add them to friends) - this aims to help you avoid personal attacks or spam from users you're already recognizing as ones you want no contact with.
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snowkatt: about time !

this should have been in the initial post
I can tell you that I am hearing the criticism in this (and other) thread(s) and making sure it's heard further down the line. However, I cannot give a date at which/by which action will be taken, as that decision falls beyond my competence and often depends on a multitude of other factors, from staff availability, through other priority tasks, to the amount of time it takes to make a functionality work, and probably more that I'm not aware of.

It's also beyond my competence to assign a task, judge the importance of a feature or effort required to complete a feature, so all I can do is pass your feedback along and sincerely sympathise that certain site features are not up to the expected standard - and even if I do get internal information on what is or isn't in the works, I'm not always able to pass it along.

(Sorry if that was a bit of a wall of text, just wanted to clarify some things).

As for the info about blocking users on chat via the forums, I only got clarification and full explanation on it now - I've edited the main post appropriately to reflect it. :)
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Ciris: I can tell you that I am hearing the criticism in this (and other) thread(s) and making sure it's heard further down the line. However, I cannot give a date at which/by which action will be taken, as that decision falls beyond my competence and often depends on a multitude of other factors, from staff availability, through other priority tasks, to the amount of time it takes to make a functionality work, and probably more that I'm not aware of.

It's also beyond my competence to assign a task, judge the importance of a feature or effort required to complete a feature, so all I can do is pass your feedback along and sincerely sympathise that certain site features are not up to the expected standard - and even if I do get internal information on what is or isn't in the works, I'm not always able to pass it along.

(Sorry if that was a bit of a wall of text, just wanted to clarify some things).

As for the info about blocking users on chat via the forums, I only got clarification and full explanation on it now - I've edited the main post appropriately to reflect it. :)
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snowkatt: i cant say i am totally placated yet ie i wil believe these promises when i actually see them
but i understand your situation however gog needs to be more transparent because we feel ignored
this is a step in the right direction
I do understand your doubts. I will try to communicate in a more transparent way, however sometimes I simply don't know about something or am not able to pass on that information, and I apologize for those cases in advance. Thank you for appreciating the honesty, though - it means a lot.

With that, I've got to go do some personal stuff away from the computer, including a doctor's visit and a trip to a public institution - I should be back in the later CEST evening to check on this thread, but I may not be able to provide answers until tomorrow morning.
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MaximumBunny: Finally! Thought we were abandoned. ^^
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Ciris: Let me know if you have any questions, I’ll gather them and pass them over to the web team or get someone from their tech-savvy band to stop by and answer them for you!
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MaximumBunny: What do you think about requiring a purchase on GOG before someone can post links instead of requiring a certain amount of positive rep? It would require a direct order through the GOG store at least once. You can also set this as a requirement for +- repping a user to prevent alt account abuse. Money is always a deterrent for problematic users. :)
The option to paygate the forums has been considered (for instance, when the Korean spammers attacked), but discarded in favor of letting honest users, who just want to find out if a game's worth their purchase (or if it has a certain feature they remember) ask their question without the need to buy something. However, since you're not the first person saying it may be a good topic to consider, I'll try to get back to it with the team :)


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mrkgnao: I apologise for replying to your post after 19 hours. Someone seems to have forgotten to mark this as a "blue" thread and I failed to notice it among the numerous "add me as a friend" threads.

Thank you for adding the option to delete messages, but before I do so, can I please get back the hundreds of messages that I had in the old PM system and which you had promised will be quickly migrated to the new chat system?
I'll see if I can get some information about why old PMs aren't showing up or when they might. I'll get back to you!
Post edited August 06, 2015 by Ciris
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Ciris: I'll see if I can get some information about why old PMs aren't showing up or when they might. I'll get back to you!
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moonshineshadow: An update on this would be appreciated, I wrote to support about this problem two months ago and they said they were working on it but until now I did not get any of my missing messages back. So it would be great if you could give us a timeline.
The information I got is that it's an issue we're aware of, it's on the list of things to do/fix, and the messages are not gone (they are safely stored), but there are a lot of other tasks on the table as well. Sorry to be keeping you waiting - the messages will reappear, that I can say for sure, but no accurate timeline for it can be given at this time.
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mike_cesara: Just wanted to highlight what DeMignon said:
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Along other good features already mentioned, please don't forget to show a user's join date and rep in the chat menu again. We've got some issues with users impersonating others by creating very similar looking fake accounts. Without the join date / rep info it's pretty easy to fall for these fakes.

I'm also up for paygate when comes to repping. It's not like you take away posting ability from new users. However, it will be more accurate if account also requires some amount of rep in my opinion.

+ e-mail confirmation when registering new account..
I was actually talking about showing more info on the contacts list in chat with some colleagues earlier today. I'll be passing on that and other suggestions to the web team - although I believe they may already have been brought up by others within the company as well.
Sorry it is taking longer than expected, but rest assured that we've got top men working on this right now.
Post edited August 20, 2015 by Firek
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Breja: So which is it, I wonder? Are your "top men" working on shit, or are they on vacation?
Web dev team (yes there is one ;) ) is working on it. Sorry you have to wait though!