Posted July 16, 2021
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As for evidence, this is easily demonstrable first hand, and most easily with the martial arts example. If i were to demonstrate a "harimau takedown" (some takedown i don't know the real name of that comes from Silat) as it's called in my gym in a video, and also wrote the procedure, and we got 4 students (whome we'll call A, B, C, and D respectively), where students A and B have no experience in martial arts, and students C and D have studied wrestling, and if A and C i provide a video, and B and D I only provide the text explanation, A, C, and D will be likely to get some semblance of the technique down enough that they will be able to perform the technique in the first place against a training partner, and from there the same pattern would apply regardless of introductory method (that is to say, they'd have to practice it and perfect it and memorize the perfections, switch to a resistive opponent and repeat those steps, etc). B, however, is unlikely to pick up the necessary data to perform the technique, because describing the technique adequately through text alone to the degree that an untrained person would be able to even follow it is unlikely. The converse can be true of a complex magic trick, because magic tricks are all about hiding things by distracting the eyes from where the trick is performed, so for your average magic trick B, C, and D are more likely to get to the stage of being able to demonstrate it themselves. The key here is the initial demonstration/performance stage, because after that comes the perfection. However you cannot improve a technique of any kind if you cannot get to the point of knowing what succeed and fail look like, as well as what went wrong when the attempt fails. The fundamental question is what technique is best for getting one's foot in the door. For martial arts, guiding one's hand is easily the most effective method for the inexperienced, and for flying an airplane, somthing similar would be appropriate. For programming, typing for someone isn't going to really accomplish much of anything, and instead the tried and true method for boilerplate memorization is making someone actually type something that is written (rather than copy and paste or downloading a file), while the problem solving parts are best presented through text that can be read. This is not dissimilar to how different types of graphs present different types of data in different ways and how one type of graph is more efficient for one type of data than another.
btw i dont get this necro posting hate, like comments rot or something after a few months?
there is a pause in the thread for a year , and ? does it hurt anybody
Well, there's a few reasonable arguments, really. there is a pause in the thread for a year , and ? does it hurt anybody
1st: What if the poster you're replying to is no longer present to defend their claims from a bad counter-argument?
2nd: What if the poster you're replying to no longer holds the belief you're responding to?
3rd: Most threads have a line of logic or a flow to them, and getting back into an old thread can require reading several back pages just to respond to some one (depends on the topic and line of argumentation).
Of course, this has no bearing on the actual arguments being presented, but it does have bearing on the people participating on the threads. This is why i prefer my style of tackling necroposts, because necroposting happens because issues in a thread might persist rather than being solved when the thread "dies," and starting up a new topic for something "already covered" is even less polite. Therefore, the wiser thing is to try to get the arguments re-addressed to those actually around. It seems like a nice compromise, to me, since obviously a compromise is necessary, 'cause neglecting an issue simply because "it was already discussed before" is still inappropriate and neglectful.

btw i dont get this necro posting hate, like comments rot or something after a few months?
there is a pause in the thread for a year , and ? does it hurt anybody

Post edited July 16, 2021 by kohlrak