1. I was merely suggesting ways for them to market their games while saving money.


2. You find it ludicrous, but most such people with said mindset would find any way to pirate/play for free before buying (They could play a friend's copy(who paid for it), as one example)......even some of them would either buy used(if available) or wait for a HUGE discount before buying, effectively cutting the return to devs down to nothing or close to it. Either way, the devs get nothing from them and to them it may as well be a "lost sale".

I AGREE some make it attractive NOT to pirate(like Hulu and GOG do for movies/shpws and games respectively), but some would go out of their way to keep any money from going into dev's hands, making it almost the same thing(financially) to the dev/etc in the end for those people.

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I am not one of em btw, and am NOT 100% anti-corporate. I just am not 100% PRO corporate or think companies can do anything or that they need to make infinite money because "capitalism".

Also you say PIRACY affects you, but it doesn't nearly as much as people buying lootboxes/mobile games/etc...they are shaping the industry more because the companies know that's where the money is at currently.

Hello, everyone.

Just wanted to point out that OP's account was created this month (probably today?), has no games in it and is obviously trolling.

Why do you mention "DRM and online services" as if they're the same thing? Most users of online services don't have any idea that they're buying into DRM at all!
People buy in stead of pirate because of a good online service (GOG is one of them). Nobody stops pirating because of 'great DRM'.

You don't think a greater emphasis on online games, and now free-to-play games, was in fact inspired at least partially by a desire to find new sources of revenue in a world where every singleplayer game is free online to whoever is okay downloading it? One answer 10ish years ago was a stronger console focus where less piracy occurred (think of the famous quotes by Crytek and Epic Games guys that PC gamers still whine about today). Piracy shapes a lot of the industry decisions you complain about.

No, i'd think the piracy stuff is leading more to/more responsible for the current streaming trend/future trend.

I think this is mainly just companies being greedy as always.
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Also fwiw you ever stop to think maybe you might be a BIT biased in your way of thinking due to your strong feelings on piracy?

Why do people bother wasting their time on the intellectually naive person, whose every reply ever consists of numerically marked paragraphs.

That's called being smart/organized so to better follow/read, or did you banged your head so much that you became (intellectually) unwise/illiterate? :P

Don't bother. He will never realise that he has a "black and white" world-view... EDIT: He also generalizes/simplifies too much; by his definition EVERY single pirate is bad/evil.

If I were a mod I would consider closing this one as it's getting stale with circular discussion/point (as in pointless).

1. Ignore him.....he has a chip on his shoulder when it comes to me and likes to egg me on when he can(even though staff have likely warned him not to).

2. Eh I like replying to him and he does make some good points I agree with sometimes.

As for the thread...it'll die out soon enough, given time, like all threads do(except games and the like).

They can avoid that by making sure they don't have any boxed copies of it packed in shipping containers on a ship anywhere near Somalia. That's easy enough to do probably.

That is called being annoying, and lacking the social interactions with people in real life. Your argumentation, on the other hand, is intellectually lazy.

yes and it was not same as wither 3 bcouse there is chance that more witcher 3 players not like first person camera. so they dont buy cyberpunk cracked or not. the other issue is the top notch game not craded red dead redeamtion 2 and the suffer is that even no intrested people try cyberpunk when cracked jsut bcouse of they can acces top notch game.

there is issues in here is ı have totouch
1 there is no such a thing pirate gamers. but there is such a thing customer want try demo or freeweek not just for the game is it gonna work on system etc.

2 there is no such thing aaa pirate gamer build aaa gaming pc but not spend any money for aaa games. yea sure maybe buys on sale or even 1 game over 2 years etc but its customer. dont forget many console gamers buys 10 game mostly for console life time which makes 1.2 game by year.

3. the truth. you dont have money to spend even buy all games and play all.

4. the ugly truth of pc gaming: when your grandchild ask hows games like red dead redeamtion 2 pc the only way in distan future can be cracked version bcouse not have pc box copy. when steam gone it gone. worst not have cracked copy too. you only access on retro consoles maybe. its same for old pc games too. nocturne the game my most fav game ever not on gog or net. only have demo and cracked version even that hard to find nowadays.

5 some people dont want to buy digital sofware even its cheap. coming from culture tp buy physcal sofware so they pirate if there is no option to buy physcally.

6 most of gamers dont have credit card or banck account to buy digitally .

7 most of people not access to internet

8 and most importingly games not 60 dollar on all over world its insane prices even on digtally. the countires on russia turkey ukraine iran egypt austerila named outside of main countries aaa games best 150 to 500 money. yes some games more than that countires console prize 400. they wel deserve to pirate like hell. there is reason why the sega beat nintnedo back in day for manyies bcouse of bootleg cartriges.

9 most of pirated gamers actualy buys game when on next genorion. feels retro about pirated game and buys on new system. ı myself at least buyed 30 game before back then pirated. ı palyed all asssisnss creed cracked and buyed hallf of them boxed later. even ı buy ac origins two times one in steam digitally and boxed pc version which ı briefly played cracked version.

10 final even cracked games not free. you have to acces to internet and download . cralked games before internet was not free to you have to buy burned dvd from back stores even for cheap. even bootleg cartrige games was not cheap back in day bcsoue they weere like real game quality box. most of the child not know even they real or not back in day lol.

https://spidersweb.pl/2016/12/cyberpunk-2077-dofinansowanie.html
Polish government "gave" CD Project RED 30 million PLN (about $8 million) to improve the game.
Yes, it was legal, but slavery was also.
So if I get a game without paying (CD Project is not losing there, just not gaining) then I'm a thief?
What about Poles who paid for that and they don't even know the game exists. Real money was taken from them.
Do Polish people (me) can have the game for free, then?

Not nice

Don't worry. The Witcher 3 was also pirated by so many people and the game still sold really well. If Developers care about their customers and make good games like CD Projekt Red does then you can be sure it will sell like hot cakes and no piracy can damage the sales of those games.

You have a twisted view on how taxes work. You entrust the government to make decisions. They take money to keep running. How they spend it is in their discretion. Obviously, when they spend it in ways you don't like, there is a process where you can change that. But to assume because you're Polish, and the government subsidized the game that you already paid for it is ludicrous and ignores how literally all that works. You don't like them subsidizing game companies, make sure you tell your government reps that so they can change their behavior or start a movement to vote them out for it. They're not thieves for getting government subsidies that are intended for just that purpose, to help Polish based international companies. Yes, you're a thief for taking something that you didn't pay for.