Both games are sandbox MMOs in alpha tests, Camelot Unchained aka "Dark Age of Camelot 2" (...meets Minecraft, I would add) by Mark Jacobs and Crowfall aka "Game of Thrones meets EVE Online" - their very ambitious slogan from Kickstarter in March 2015.

Long story short, you can find more details in the following links. Speaking of building, this is quick intro to Camelot Unchained building (it's 100% free form and player is Necromaniak) - <span class="podkreslenie"><span class="bold">https://ello.co/jamesgoblin/post/lwcc9qkee_5xilkhpqhjma</span></span> Building tool he uses is C.U.B.E. (Camelot Unchained Building Environment) and first images in that link are from this video - <span class="podkreslenie"><span class="bold">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHaXdWvQHEg&amp;feature=youtu.be</span>< ;/span>

In Crowfall, building is modular (you build from pre-made pieces like wall sections, towers...) but players will have tools to place rivers, mountains... at their own will (!) This is how it looks - <span class="podkreslenie"><span class="bold">https://ello.co/jamesgoblin/post/e6yhwdv6_xbjtdqnff1tma</span></span> thou current player tests mostly focus on combat and (voxel) destruction of pre-made fortifications.

I stopped reading at MMO. I'm simply not into them.

I'm confused. Are you a dev?

I'm different vegetable, haven't played a single player (hmm...or even just a multiplayer) since...2004? IIRC my last non-MMO was Starcraft. I'm confused too, but nope.

Not really an MMO player either but that looks pretty awesome.

You were carrying on a conversation with Kleetus, I'd say your decidedly more than confused. :P He is one of the forum trolls.

Ah, it's not easy to tell only from a post or two. Say, some people just have a weird sense of humor, some are poetic (or drunk, or both) and so on - I am usually giving them lots of chance before labeling.

Totally! I encourage you to. Don't take my word on it. That usually gets people into trouble, :P

You can sleep with a clear conscience, this little goblin is warned. Of course, in vain, but - ah well...

Another double update, Camelot Unchained vs Crowfall video comparison by ItsZiz - <span class="bold">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQmCG33uMTo&amp;feature=youtu.be</span>

PS I also updated the links in the OP with couple new images & info - say, Camelot Unchained should enter beta in early 2017, Crowfall - at best in late 2017.

These both look really cool and I'd give each a shot if not for the fact that they are PvP-focused. I really prefer PvE when it comes to MMOs.

On an somewhat unrelated note, I have fond memories of Dark Age of Camelot, that game was awesome back in the day. I still got my maps and posters from it. =)

Both Camelot Unchained and Crowfall are still in development and are nearing their final milestone.

For Crowfall, this milestone includes:
- the Frostweaver (final class)
- caravans
- mounts
- refineries
- the Dregs (GvG campaign)
- ability to create, move and destroy buildings
- remaining disciplines
- etc.