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kalirion: Apparently George Broussard was not involved much with DNF, but I'll still not trust 3D Realms with $0.01 of my money to fund a future project.

I will likely get DNF on a Steam sale for $2.50 though.
I got my copy when I upgraded my video card for my older PC last year. I still haven't played it, and it's been over 1 year.
I thought 3D Realms laid off just about everyone...

Who exactly is running the crowdfunding?
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johnki: I thought 3D Realms laid off just about everyone...

Who exactly is running the crowdfunding?
Radar Group?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radar_Group
Wow, a post apocalyptic FPS from 3D Realms. Truly, my cup runneth over. /sarcasm mode off.

But seriously, I feel kind of bad for them, but I doubt they'll make it what with DNF being what it was. Also, I'm not entirely sure of the wisdom of opening up a new crowdfunding platform at the moment. If it was on Kickstarter they might be able to rope in enough people, but I imagine considerably less people will use Gambitious.
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kalirion: I will likely get DNF on a Steam sale for $2.50 though.
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grviper: That's too much, unless you really, really "love" Duke and ridiculously linear shooters.
Eh, I wish people would stop badmouthing the game. I get that it's cool to hate on DNF because that's what all the cool kids are doing, but it's a fun game, there's some really cool sequences in it.

Granted it is quite linear and it should have been out years earlier, but all the bitching is quite ridiculous. It's definitely worth far more than $2.50.
Ah, that's what some of the other posts are referencing. Thanks. I didn't actually check out the funding thing because I wasn't really interested.

But I see it's "not really" 3D Realms. Is Broussard even involved, or is it just Scott Miller?
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johnki: Ah, that's what some of the other posts are referencing. Thanks. I didn't actually check out the funding thing because I wasn't really interested.

But I see it's "not really" 3D Realms. Is Broussard even involved, or is it just Scott Miller?
To be honest I have no idea what is going on in that place any more, not sure if anyone does, it is a bit of a mess. Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think Broussard was ever involved in this to start with?

Here is the wikipage about the game itself:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_No_More
and if you read between the lines....
Wait, it's actually remaking/continuing a game cancelled in 2009? That's... ominous.
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amok: To be honest I have no idea what is going on in that place any more, not sure if anyone does, it is a bit of a mess. Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think Broussard was ever involved in this to start with?
I dunno, that's why I asked, haha.

Anyways, I don't really think I'm interested, seeing as it's NOT 3D Realms, but it's getting publicity as the "new" 3D Realms, and towards the end 3D Realms just kinda...yeah.
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johnki: Anyways, I don't really think I'm interested, seeing as it's NOT 3D Realms, but it's getting publicity as the "new" 3D Realms, and towards the end 3D Realms just kinda...yeah.
sorry, was just a cautious way of saying "nah, the man was never involved in this mess to start with" - just in case I was wrong.... don't think I am though...
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Vestin: It's like Night of the Living Companies... All your beloved devs and publishers rising from their graves and shambling towards you, moaning "Funds... More funds...".
Making games, how does that make you feel?...
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amok: sorry, was just a cautious way of saying "nah, the man was never involved in this mess to start with" - just in case I was wrong.... don't think I am though...
Yeah, I mean, in some ways that's a good thing - from what I've heard of the DNF debacle, the blame for why it took so long lies almost solely on Broussard for being a perfectionist, must-be-ahead-of-the-competition kind of person - but at the same time, I really don't have any interest in giving any of them money right now.
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hedwards: Eh, I wish people would stop badmouthing the game. I get that it's cool to hate on DNF because that's what all the cool kids are doing, but it's a fun game, there's some really cool sequences in it.
I played it. It's got nothing to add to the genre. At least Duke 3D had the engine, although Monolith did a much better job with it. DNF is worth anything only to fans of Duke, which I am not (could force myself to beat DN3D only in eduke replacing most guns). Map layout, QTE, physics, more QTE, seemingly fun stuff happening in the background are not impressive. I was having flashbacks to Legendary, which painted a big picture and then forced you into square boxes to punch wolves.
One thing DNF got is shrinking sections, but enduring all the stuff between them isn't worth it.
Post edited September 25, 2012 by grviper
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hedwards: Eh, I wish people would stop badmouthing the game. I get that it's cool to hate on DNF because that's what all the cool kids are doing, but it's a fun game, there's some really cool sequences in it.
I couldn't agree more. Most people who badmouth DNF haven't even played it. It's a pretty fun game overall, at least for the SP campaign. Oh, and that DLC "The Doctor Who Cloned Me" is fucking amazing, one of the best things i have played this year (i have just played it this weekend). Too bad that it's kind of short, but since it's just a DLC i guess i can't complain. The Doctor who cloned me has some hilarious jokes.

"I have balls, balls, balls, uh, balls of steel".

Honestly, i had more fun with DNF than with Bioshock's bland and boring campaign.
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grviper: I played it. It's got nothing to add to the genre. At least Duke 3D had the engine, although Monolith did a much better job with it. DNF is worth anything only to fans of Duke, which I am not (could force myself to beat DN3D only in eduke replacing most guns). Map layout, QTE, physics, more QTE, seemingly fun stuff happening in the background are not impressive. I was having flashbacks to Legendary, which painted a big picture and then forced you into square boxes to punch wolves.
One thing DNF got is shrinking sections, but enduring all the stuff between them isn't worth it.
Oo! We're talking about what we didn't like about DNF? I'm in!

First off, all of the environments were cramped. And I don't get why. It was running on Unreal towards the end there and that definitely could have had more open areas. I mean, I get small areas, but these were tiny. All of them were.

Second, on the Xbox 360 version I played, the anti-aliasing seemed like it was almost non-existent. There were jagged edges on pretty much everything, and then on top of that, it seemed like there was some sort of grainy-ness to everything.

Third, the crosshair, and aiming in general seemed really, really jittery. As in, it seemed like it wasn't smooth, and it would stop momentarily every now and then. I don't get HOW they screwed that part up since it's a core feature of the Unreal engine.

Fourth, a lot of the jokes weren't funny. I liked "Power armor is for pussies." and "I've got balls of fail!" when you were playing pinball and failed at it, but other than that, it was pretty meh.

Fifth, the emphasis on sex. Dear god, I don't know if Duke 3D was only subtle about it because they didn't have a choice due to the limitations imposed, but they weren't even SORT OF subtle about it in DNF. The part in the stadium is where I just gave up. It wasn't just one or two, but dozens of half-naked women being raped by aliens with the sound of moaning the whole time. Oh, and you could shoot them, and they'd explode in a cloud of blood and gore.

Classy.