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Yep as I was saying Anita sarkeesian (Doubt that is her REAL name) Is literally shitting all over games as being too misogynistic I really don't know what her problem is?!? she's attacking Super Mario, Tomb raider, and a few others Sickening I know Poor girl is a bit Mental

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All these ones she's attacking she's just jealous if you ask me!
Post edited October 14, 2012 by fr33kSh0w2012
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fr33kSh0w2012: Yep as I was saying Anita sarkeesian (Doubt that is her REAL name) Is literally shitting all over games as being too misogynistic I really don't know what her problem is?!?
...Literally? Fucking hell, you'd think she'd just use the toilet like everyone else.
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pH7: Derailing this thread even further, but have you seen The gods must be crazy? Apart from the (obviously) impressive clicking, it's actually a quite good movie in my opinion. It makes me happy at any rate.
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Bloodygoodgames: I saw The Gods Must Be Crazy when it came out in movie theaters the second time (around 1986 I think?) - now that shows how old I am :) I also own it on DVD (twice) and have shown it to just about every EFL class I've taught in Thailand. It's HILARIOUS and such an interesting style of humor just about any culture can see the humor in it. Highly recommend it. Thanks for reminding me about it. Haven't watched it for about 2 years. I may just watch it again tonight :)
I'm glad I bothered to skim through all the misplaced religious arguments to find a worthy diversion from the thread title! One of my favourite films :D
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fr33kSh0w2012: Yep as I was saying Anita sarkeesian (Doubt that is her REAL name) Is literally shitting all over games as being too misogynistic I really don't know what her problem is?!?
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Hesusio: ...Literally? Fucking hell, you'd think she'd just use the toilet like everyone else.
If you're going to be pedantic, could you at least spend a few moments to make sure you're correct. Literally is used appropriately in the sentence you're criticizing.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/literally
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pH7: Derailing this thread even further, but have you seen The gods must be crazy? Apart from the (obviously) impressive clicking, it's actually a quite good movie in my opinion. It makes me happy at any rate.
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Bloodygoodgames: I saw The Gods Must Be Crazy when it came out in movie theaters the second time (around 1986 I think?) - now that shows how old I am :) I also own it on DVD (twice) and have shown it to just about every EFL class I've taught in Thailand. It's HILARIOUS and such an interesting style of humor just about any culture can see the humor in it. Highly recommend it. Thanks for reminding me about it. Haven't watched it for about 2 years. I may just watch it again tonight :)
I think the sequel was better than the original IMHO.
Post edited October 14, 2012 by hedwards
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hedwards: Literally is used appropriately in the sentence you're criticizing.
Dude... no sense of humor, huh? First of all, "literally" would actually mean that the woman is taking a crap on games - "literally" is often used as an itensifier but it doesn't change the word's actual meaning which is "without metaphor or allegory". Secondly, it's popular to make fun of that use of "literally", just like Weird Al Yankovic did in this "interview". You really need to relax.
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hedwards: Literally is used appropriately in the sentence you're criticizing.
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F4LL0UT: Dude... no sense of humor, huh? First of all, "literally" would actually mean that the woman is taking a crap on games - "literally" is often used as an itensifier but it doesn't change the word's actual meaning which is "without metaphor or allegory". Secondly, it's popular to make fun of that use of "literally", just like Weird Al Yankovic did in this "interview". You really need to relax.
Honestly, that sort of trolling is kind of amusing when you're 12, less so when you're an adult. Considering that the word has been used in this sense for as many decades as it has, I think we can admit that perhaps it's time to admit that it's in fact a real word. And no, I don't need to relax. This sort of bullying is really not appropriate. Also, Weird Al is Weird Al, nobody is going to confuse anything he says with being him being serious because that's literally completely different from his stage persona.
Post edited October 14, 2012 by hedwards
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hedwards: Considering that the word has been used in this sense for as many decades as it has, I think we can admit that perhaps it's time to admit that it's in fact a real word.
You know, "atheism" has been used as a multipurpose word for all things un-Christian or bad for decades. It should be an accepted meaning by now :p
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hedwards: This sort of bullying is really not appropriate.
To call taking the piss out of a single forum post "bullying" is kind of insulting to people who've actually been bullied at one time or another.
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hedwards: Considering that the word has been used in this sense for as many decades as it has, I think we can admit that perhaps it's time to admit that it's in fact a real word.
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Adzeth: You know, "atheism" has been used as a multipurpose word for all things un-Christian or bad for decades. It should be an accepted meaning by now :p
I'll have to look into that, I haven't seen Atheist used in that sense. Certainly not in common use like literally being used as the previous poster used it.

I can't recall ever having seen it put like that.

But yes, ultimately, if it's been used for quite some time in common use, then it would be a legitimate definition. Regardless of whether it makes any sense or not.
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pH7: Derailing this thread even further, but have you seen The gods must be crazy? Apart from the (obviously) impressive clicking, it's actually a quite good movie in my opinion. It makes me happy at any rate.
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Bloodygoodgames: I saw The Gods Must Be Crazy when it came out in movie theaters the second time (around 1986 I think?) - now that shows how old I am :) I also own it on DVD (twice) and have shown it to just about every EFL class I've taught in Thailand. It's HILARIOUS and such an interesting style of humor just about any culture can see the humor in it. Highly recommend it. Thanks for reminding me about it. Haven't watched it for about 2 years. I may just watch it again tonight :)
Actually, this film is quite violently criticized in visual anthropology, as culturally patronizing and pepretuating the myth of noble savages, pure and untouched in their glorious child-like naivety. A representation that is almost as damaging as its opposite equivalent (the fierce savage). That film is regularly referred to in a very derogative way. I liked it as a kid, but kinda lost that innocence since.
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hedwards: This sort of bullying is really not appropriate.
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Hesusio: To call taking the piss out of a single forum post "bullying" is kind of insulting to people who've actually been bullied at one time or another.
By that logic, I should be able to call random people's mother a whore and not be a bully. Or, perhaps I could take it in turns with a few buddies, because clearly if it's just one comment, that's harmless. Nobody gets harmed until they've heard a comment X times.

Linguistic profiling is a very serious issue and one which people ought to take more seriously. Some differences are given more attention than others are, but at the end of the day, unless you were asked to give a correction, you shouldn't be doing it.
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Hesusio: To call taking the piss out of a single forum post "bullying" is kind of insulting to people who've actually been bullied at one time or another.
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hedwards: By that logic, I should be able to call random people's mother a whore and not be a bully. Or, perhaps I could take it in turns with a few buddies, because clearly if it's just one comment, that's harmless. Nobody gets harmed until they've heard a comment X times.

Linguistic profiling is a very serious issue and one which people ought to take more seriously. Some differences are given more attention than others are, but at the end of the day, unless you were asked to give a correction, you shouldn't be doing it.
Well then, I suppose if Mr fr33kSh0w2012 spends tonight crying himself to sleep, we'll know that I'm solely to blame. How very distasteful.
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hedwards: Also, Weird Al is Weird Al, nobody is going to confuse anything he says with being him being serious because that's literally completely different from his stage persona.
What does that have to do with anything? The point is that making fun of this use of "literally" in some situations is an absolutely common joke that nobody's gonna feel insulted by - it's more likely that the person who used the word originally is gonna laugh because of this than get hurt. And THAT's why you have to relax. You've fooled yourself into believing that there was some sort of aggression and as a consequence introduced aggression yourself. Very smart and noble, really.
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Bloodygoodgames: I saw The Gods Must Be Crazy when it came out in movie theaters the second time (around 1986 I think?) - now that shows how old I am :) I also own it on DVD (twice) and have shown it to just about every EFL class I've taught in Thailand. It's HILARIOUS and such an interesting style of humor just about any culture can see the humor in it. Highly recommend it. Thanks for reminding me about it. Haven't watched it for about 2 years. I may just watch it again tonight :)
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Telika: Actually, this film is quite violently criticized in visual anthropology, as culturally patronizing and pepretuating the myth of noble savages, pure and untouched in their glorious child-like naivety. A representation that is almost as damaging as its opposite equivalent (the fierce savage). That film is regularly referred to in a very derogative way. I liked it as a kid, but kinda lost that innocence since.
It didn't do much for the tribesman they chose to be in the movie either or his tribe from what I read. But, it's not like society as a whole back them was helping them much either.

However.I don't choose to like or not like something because of what critics years later decide are now no longer áppropriate';. I owned a golliwog as a kid, just about everyone I knew did. Nowadays of course they're thought of as 'racist' or ínappropriate'. Yeah. Whatever. As a kid, I never once thought of it as anything more than a cool doll, and certainly didn't put onto it the racist connotations that modern-day idiots do.

Things that were filmed 30 or more years ago often tend to be thought of as ínappropriate' today (I've read all kinds of crap that critics have written about how movies in the 1950s were derogatory to women, never mind that the women in them or watching them didn't look at them that way).

But then again, political correctness is also out of control, so that's to be expected. Most of the time, I just ignore it as it's often even more ignorant than the film, book or TV show they're criticizing.
I disagree with that. The fact that a work is from another era, and was seen as perfectly appropriate then, doesn't invalidate criticisms from our point of view, nor its inappropriateness now that we "know better" and have higher awareness and standards on these matters. We have other, higher, better expectations for what we'd produce today.

Of course criticism of past works is criticism of past societies. They can still be enjoyed while being replaced in their sociocultural contexts (there's a lot of awfully racist, vcolonialist, sexist stuff that I love, and enjoy with detachment, because they've got that charmingly outdated flavor). But better be aware of that distance. And have a crtitical eye, at some level. It's simply about not being, ourselves, the same spectators, or members of the same society, as those of that era. These productions shape our imagination and worldviews (those who watch this film imagine that there are actually tribes of big children stuck in the past, that should be sheltered from the modern world to not get corrupt like, well, like these other, less worthy, hybrids). They create stereotypes that we reproduce later, or that we base opinions upon. It's not without consequences. It gives ideas of what indigenist policies should be, it grounds judgements on what "true" natives are, and who are "betrayers" or "corrupt" or "not real" ones, it encourages some slightly patronizing empathy ("aww, they're so cuuute") or even possible disqualifications ("they're cute but so naive"). There's a lot of tiny issues with inaccurate descriptions of "mythified" human groups.

So, just saying, you can enjoy it, but be aware of its shortcomings, and distancize yourself from some aspects. Just like you can read and enjoy "Tintin in Congo" (with all its endearing naive little child-like africans), but still, roll your eyes, and don't imagine that it's a valid caricature of Africa as much as the readers from the 30s to the 60s imagined it to be.

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Lost all paragraph separations when editing. Hm. Trying to re-cut it at the right places. Failing.
Post edited October 14, 2012 by Telika