Posted September 23, 2009
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lukaszthegreat
Greed is good!
Registered: Sep 2008
From Norfolk Island
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bansama
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Registered: Oct 2008
From Japan
Posted September 23, 2009
It blocks your ability to use the game with the online GFWL. For those who care, that'll block access to earning achievements.
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Maighstir
THIS KNIGHT MISLIKES THESE HEIGHTS
Registered: Nov 2008
From Sweden
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bansama
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Registered: Oct 2008
From Japan
Posted September 23, 2009
Nope, unless count growing the epeens of acheivement whores. Personally, I couldn't care less about them.
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lukaszthegreat
Greed is good!
Registered: Sep 2008
From Norfolk Island
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michaelleung
YOU ARE ALL RETARDS
Registered: Sep 2008
From Canada
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bansama
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Registered: Oct 2008
From Japan
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Maighstir
THIS KNIGHT MISLIKES THESE HEIGHTS
Registered: Nov 2008
From Sweden
Posted September 23, 2009
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Ah, at first I was under the impression that they could be traded in for MS points or something, and then subsequently used for buying stuff (or maybe I just mixing them up as I didn't know the difference), but was soon informed otherwise when I actually installed the legal copy of Fallout 3 and GFWL with it (and have since been wondering what the hell they're good for). I was hoping I could get some add-on for free after getting enough achievement points.
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TheCheese33
Saves The Day
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From United States
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lukaszthegreat
Greed is good!
Registered: Sep 2008
From Norfolk Island
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Aliasalpha
Once Proud
Registered: Dec 2008
From Australia
Posted September 23, 2009
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Nah they're just there to show your mates what you've done in a game and for a fun competition between friends. Sadly like everything involving numbers people have gotten crazy about it and spend far too much time trying to boost a pointless score, even going so far as to play games they don't like and refusing to buy addons for games if they don't add achievements.
I just don't get people...
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Maighstir
THIS KNIGHT MISLIKES THESE HEIGHTS
Registered: Nov 2008
From Sweden
Posted September 23, 2009
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I just don't get people...
Great, another thing I won't have to worry about then. At least in WoW the achievements sometimes give you stuff you can use (after you've grinded like mad to check off the necessary ones), like some vanity pet, or a mount.
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Aliasalpha
Once Proud
Registered: Dec 2008
From Australia
Posted September 23, 2009
They often unlock ingame items, at least on 360/PS3 games. As an example getting all the riddler trophies in batman gives you the armoured bat suit for use in the challenge rooms. Well ONE of the achievements/trophies gives you that, think it was the riddler one
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bansama
bansama.com
Registered: Oct 2008
From Japan
Posted September 23, 2009
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Yes, but I'm, currently working, thus a quick Google search will get you as much information as I have. The basic point with Fallout 3 is that it hasn't confirmed either way, thus, there is the possiblity that every time you reinstall, it's secretly using an activation imposed by Microsoft.
The fact is, this has been confirmed to happen with SF4, GTA4 and (possibly) DOW2 as well as others.
But by all means, ask Microsoft, I'm sure they'll answer you honestly =)
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Delixe
Not Merry
Registered: Sep 2008
From Ireland
Posted September 23, 2009
I remember there was a small shitstorm over the GFWL activation limits over on the DOW2 forums. THQ or at least Relic were unaware of it at the time and apparently it's some legacy feature that has not been removed by Microsoft although it was intended to be. I have no idea if it has actually been removed and for some reason Microsoft are extrememly silent on the whole subject. According to the guys at Relic though its a simple matter of contacting Microsoft and more activations are added with no questions asked.