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Eh? Didn't find the game that hard actually. I've finished twice, once with Tau, the other with Chaos. I also started with Necron, which went fine for a while, until I just lost interest.
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Fenixp: Yep, AI cheats like hell, more resource income, I think even faster build times... But it's still possible to beat it (not to mention there's a non-chating computer patch lying somewhere around the internets - but it's even harder to beat it then, cause it improves AI :D ). But it's still possible to beat it, just requires some training - I'd reccomend you playing a few skirmish battles against harder and harder opponents, it's still fun and you'll learn to play true Dawn of War (even on normal campaign, your units have more HP and maybe even damage than in MP or Skirmish)

Now there is the best excuse recycled from an old DoW forum ! It doesn't cheat, you're just shit, I think was the reponse
The AI is timed to give comands at teh same speed of a competant player and it does have the flaw of if it is engaed in battle the squad will not disengage if a larger threat comes along elsewhere, unless the Command building is under attack.
You can beat it but you have just got to be a good player. The build times, resource gathering and research are all the same as yours. Nice excuse though but proven many, many times to be a fallacy.
One player included his battle recording and the proof was there to be seen that he was not up to the standard to beat the AI, making basic mistakes and relying on his SM commander to wade in and deliver a bombardment whilst not much else was engaged.
This is not the place but If anyone around here will join the beta of DoW 2 on 21 January? You can join the beta on 21 January if you have Soulstorm. I am waiting for it and wanna try the game now. Also on 28 January beta will open the public. Beta will be hosted by Steam.
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Elmodiddly: Now there is the best excuse recycled from an old DoW forum ! It doesn't cheat, you're just shit, I think was the reponse

Dunno, I've red it on some Czech DoW forums from players who looked pretty experienced... Still applies the fact about the patch, though :D
I'd like to ask you though, since you seem to know something about it - does it know your exact location? I mean, I've never seen computer scounting and, since I usually play on 1v1 maps, I don't really give a damn, but on big maps it always seems to find you... Just wondering.
Also, don't you know about replays of 2v2 battles against computer, or 2v2 tactics in general? I alone can beat insane, but when I play with my friend (about the same skill I'd say), we can easily take down hard, but, suddenly, have a VERY hard time destroying harder
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acare84: This is not the place but If anyone around here will join the beta of DoW 2 on 21 January? You can join the beta on 21 January if you have Soulstorm. I am waiting for it and wanna try the game now. Also on 28 January beta will open the public. Beta will be hosted by Steam.

I'm definitely interested in it and I do own soulstorm (we all make mistakes) but if the whole thing is steam based then I'm not going to be able to, the sacrificial computer I use to put all the DRM'd stuff on has finally died so I'll have to wait for a straight download.
Post edited January 17, 2009 by Aliasalpha
I found it pretty easy (I'm an RTS hardcore guy), but I am having trouble with Red Alert 3. You might think RA3 is easier, but I seem to have some allergic reaction to any C&C game.
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acare84: This is not the place but If anyone around here will join the beta of DoW 2 on 21 January? You can join the beta on 21 January if you have Soulstorm. I am waiting for it and wanna try the game now. Also on 28 January beta will open the public. Beta will be hosted by Steam.
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Aliasalpha: 'm definitely interested in it and I do own soulstorm (we all make mistakes) but if the whole thing is steam based then I'm not going to be able to, the sacrificial computer I use to put all the DRM'd stuff on has finally died so I'll have to wait for a straight download.

Yes, Beta will be Steam only. Also If you have Soulstorm retail you can add the game to Steam. You must enter CD-Key in Steam for this.
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Elmodiddly: Now there is the best excuse recycled from an old DoW forum ! It doesn't cheat, you're just shit, I think was the reponse
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Fenixp: Dunno, I've red it on some Czech DoW forums from players who looked pretty experienced... Still applies the fact about the patch, though :D
I'd like to ask you though, since you seem to know something about it - does it know your exact location? I mean, I've never seen computer scounting and, since I usually play on 1v1 maps, I don't really give a damn, but on big maps it always seems to find you... Just wondering.
Also, don't you know about replays of 2v2 battles against computer, or 2v2 tactics in general? I alone can beat insane, but when I play with my friend (about the same skill I'd say), we can easily take down hard, but, suddenly, have a VERY hard time destroying harder

The AI has no idea whatsoever, it has a similar fog of war to your own but it is adept, the same as an experienced player, on hard so will use scouts or just one unit, as soon as you appear on the radar it will scoot off away then probe again elsewhere so it can find you approximate location. Exactly what you, as a very good player, should be doing.
Whilst 2v2 sounds like you should have an easy time as you beat AI on Hard every time you ramp it up they get more adept as well. Maybe your limit is hard until you two learn to communicate and adopt war tatics such as feints etc. Send in two squads with jump packs to distract then hit them on the fringes as they are focusing on the diversion. Don't forget power and resources, grind them down. Some players also forget to set the engagement stances, weapon stances and reinforce options.
An all out attack is not always the best option and usually fails if the opponent is very good and is ready for you. Special abilities such as the SM bombardment is more usefull to temporarily hold off a mass of troops whilst you regroup or damage sets of generators and turetts. Other abilites affect morale, which while may seem weak, is invaluable to hand to hand units as they mop up the fleeing squads.
Post edited January 18, 2009 by Elmodiddly
One rather dirty trick you can pull when playing the Eldar & have found the enemy base is to teleport a bonesinger into a distant corner of the base that they won't really use, build a webway gate & cloak it. That way as soon as the enemy are closing in, you can drop a force into the back of their base and cause havoc. Doesn't work that well against the AI but it works a treat against humans if you can pull it off.
The other advantage of the eldar is the teleport capable buildings, you can relocate your base and with the long range of the bonesinger teleport for building webway gates, you can actually set bases up in completely inaccessible areas if the map has one.
They're a fragile & finicky army to use but they're damned effective when you get them right.
Post edited January 18, 2009 by Aliasalpha
The same goes for every race. Some like the Space Marines are easy to use whilst others are not so easy but very effective Depends if you choose your race according to your style.
I have been playing DC for quite some time, and have struggled with it in the early stages. For the Space Marines (Yeah my fav! ), the downside with the Force Commander is that he doesn't have the detect infiltrated units war gear. Therefore when dealing with early Tau incursions (They enjoy using Stealth Suits), quickly capture a SP, built it up once, then train a Skull Probe. That should take care of those pesky Stealth Suits for the time being until you can bring up heavy bolter turrets.

I find that when attacking certain provinces, the AI seems to be extra aggressive. Examples like The Pavonian Heartlands, The Ariel Highlands, and The Western Barrens. It's always wise to save first before attacking these provinces, in case something goes wrong in between. Also although I'm considered more of a turtling kind of guy (building up loads of defences), please don't rely heavily on your defences. I find the Necrons favourite strategy was to send in a Wraith, then phase it so that all my defense turrents are trained on to it, enabling the enemy to lay waste on my turrets. This was even worse when I was playing as the Eldar, where i enjoy using the shroud ability. As the Tau like to say "Can't kill what you can't see :P. Btw the territory strength also plays a major factor. I usually attack a province once they reach level 5. I normally allow up to a max of Level 6, Beyond that, and you tend to be digging your own grave.

I have also played as the IG a few times. Although the guardsmen kinda suck in the early stage, once they are upgraded with special weapons and attached with Commissars & Priest, they are almost unstoppable. Try being shot at by 8 fully upgraded Guardsmens. Not a pretty sight :P In the early stages, I tend to roll out the mechanized command first. Why? Basilisk! They are awesome when supporting my turrets. Plus, by combo-ing with the HQ's scan ability, hehe "Death from afar" :P. Oh plus heavy weapons team supporting ur turrets with autocannons? God I just love the sound they make. BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! :D. By the way once you managed to roll out the Baneblade, you can practically sit back and enjoy the carnage. :P.

I used to shy away from the Tau mainly because they didn't even have turrets or minefields. However after discovering the beauty of shooting at someone from at least 1 screen away. (Yes especially when you're using Fire Warrior Bodyguards), they just became my second fav race :) Nah I nvr use Kroot, although I did use them when i first played the Tau. I'm not much a micro-managing kinda guy. Plus they die too easily :P. Just roll out those Crisis Suits and Hammerheads, and you own them!
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Urb4nZ0mb13: Makes me feel like an inbred retard with a blindfold on.
I loléd at this statement. I feel horrible.