lukipela: Dungeon Siege was unique when it came out. Not very many RPG's had the same levelling scheme.

klaymen: DS1 was utterly boring faceroll.

overread: Hieratic - thou shalt be burnt at the stake by dawn!

Also DS1 still stands as the only party based hack and slash type RTS we've ever had - a part of 8 (or was it 6 I can't recall) characters is still only found in DnD type games (even then in these days its only the older ones - modern seems to cap out at 4). It also gave us donkeys - I mean come on how many other RTS games have realised that you need a good ass in the party to carry away all the shiny loot!

mystral: What you should ask yourself is why DS 1 stands as the only party based hack&slash.
If it was such a great mechanic it would have been copied, like almost every great mechanic in the history of gaming has been.
It's unique because it sucked. Originality is definitely not the same as quality in this case.

Red_Avatar: It's fitting that Steam is hot air, really. With Steam, you never ever ever own anything. You're completely putting your faith in Valve and unlike any other digital service where you own a license (Gamersgate, Impulse, GOG, D2D, etc. etc.) which entitles you to a copy of the game, Steam only sells subscriptions which are completely and utterly worthless.

They dodge consumer rights which basically means Valve/Steam can screw you over as hard as they want and they already have screwed over plenty of people. It gives them power to ban your account and take away all your games.

Subscriptions are basically "give us your money, and after that you're at our mercy". You don't have the right for a refund, you can't have a back up copy of your game since that requires a license (which you don't own, you own squat - with a license you can legally pirate the game even if the original no longer works because of copy protection), you're not protected by basic consumer laws, etc.

There's thousands of examples of people who lost their account because Paypal was acting up. Instead of just freezing the game bought with Paypal, they lock the account. Some had to wait weeks for it to get fixed, some never got their account back. A friend of mine had this happening where Steam closed his account because Paypal screwed up, so after a week of Steam support being useless, he did a credit card return of charge, causing the bank to take back the funds from Paypal because their support had been useless as well. This in turn led to his account on Paypal to get locked and flagged which gave Steam the excuse to freeze his account indefinitely.

In short: Steam can really screw you over big time. There's thousands of examples already and it's the only service where you have zero rights, never own anything, and pay through your nose for it. So THAT is why many people dislike Steam. I use it for dirt cheap games which I wouldn't mind losing, but if you're going to be take the risk and pay full retail price for these games, then accept the consequences.

Metro09: Ah, it wouldn't be a GoG Forum thread without:

1) Steam bashing; and
2) Regional Restriction QQ

Your work is complete, everyone, well done.

hedwards: It's traditional.

Fred_DM: hate to break it to you but you never actually own a game no matter where or how you purchase it. all you ever purchase is a licence.

so if this is your problem and the reason you refuse to accept Steam, you might as well stop playing pc games althogether.

besides, being a gamer should be about playing games. which games exactly are you still playing if you refuse the various DRM solutions employed nowadays? call yourself a PC gamer and don't play Valve games? L.O.L.

mystral: What you should ask yourself is why DS 1 stands as the only party based hack&slash.
If it was such a great mechanic it would have been copied, like almost every great mechanic in the history of gaming has been.
It's unique because it sucked. Originality is definitely not the same as quality in this case.

DS 3 going the diablo-like road is probably the right move, although I'd have preferred it if Obsidian had stuck to what they knew and made it a real RPG.

The main problem I have with it, though, is that it seems to be a rather average hack&slash with awkward PC gameplay. It may find its public on consoles but I doubt it'll have much success on the PC.

klaymen: DS1 was utterly boring faceroll.

lukipela: It was pretty difficult if you played it above easy, especially in the beginning. Of course, the demo was easy because they doubled your damage. Guess we know which version you played.

orcishgamer: They did that in the demo? Wtf why? The demo is why I decided to not buy it, lol.

lukipela: It was pretty difficult if you played it above easy, especially in the beginning. Of course, the demo was easy because they doubled your damage. Guess we know which version you played.

klaymen: Full game on normal.
A while after I entered the tree in the swamp, where were those weird machines, exit game->uninstall. If the game wasn't borrowed from a friend, I'd ritually cut it into pieces and throw into the closest bin.