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http://www.examiner.com/finance-examiner-in-national/new-car-purchases-starting-june-will-have-a-mandatory-black-box-installed

This is why everyone should ride motorcycles instead. Or scooters, which are just as cool no matter what anyone else says.
I'd heard it was only for recent data to resolve accidents. Not for long term data or continual recovery.
I heard that social security numbers were never going to be used for identification purposes.
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nondeplumage: I heard that social security numbers were never going to be used for identification purposes.
I heard that the commies are EVERYWHERE

Some paranoia comes to pass. Not all paranoia. Vigilance is not the same as jumping off the slope.
Post edited June 01, 2011 by Taleroth
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Taleroth: I'd heard it was only for recent data to resolve accidents. Not for long term data or continual recovery.
According to the article:

Additionally, local cities and counties can download information from these black boxes, and they can be used to issue driving citations after the fact in the case of speeding or not wearing a seat belt.

And don't worry, nondelpumage, if they do it to cars, motorcycles won't be far behind.
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Taleroth: I'd heard it was only for recent data to resolve accidents. Not for long term data or continual recovery.
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Coelocanth: According to the article:

Additionally, local cities and counties can download information from these black boxes, and they can be used to issue driving citations after the fact in the case of speeding or not wearing a seat belt.

And don't worry, nondelpumage, if they do it to cars, motorcycles won't be far behind.
The conflict with what I initially heard leaves me skeptical. If true, I don't like it.
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You don't know shit about cars, government, or monitoring technology. Congratulations on trying to be an investigative journalist though, but you fail at that as well.
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RatherDashing: You don't know shit about cars, government, or monitoring technology. Congratulations on trying to be an investigative journalist though, but you fail at that as well.
I'm sensing you feel strongly about this?
Oops, what's that? I accidentally spilled acid on the device? Oh that's a shame, officer, guess you can't prove I was there after all...
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RatherDashing: You don't know shit about cars, government, or monitoring technology. Congratulations on trying to be an investigative journalist though, but you fail at that as well.
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Arianus: I'm sensing you feel strongly about this?
He's been trolling the My Little Pony thread and now he's doing it in here....same old same old.
Post edited June 01, 2011 by GameRager
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Arianus: I'm sensing you feel strongly about this?
No, he just speaks in pre-constructed phrases.
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RatherDashing: You don't know shit about talking, threads, or ponies. Congratulations on trying to be a forum poster though, but you fail at that as well.
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RatherDashing: You don't know shit about cars, government, or monitoring technology. Congratulations on trying to be an investigative journalist though, but you fail at that as well.
Not very creative, huh? I strongly believe he lacks sentience. You're talking to a recording, I'm afraid. :(
Post edited June 01, 2011 by LordKuruku
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RatherDashing: You don't know shit about cars, government, or monitoring technology. Congratulations on trying to be an investigative journalist though, but you fail at that as well.
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LordKuruku: Not very creative, huh? I strongly believe he lacks sentience. You're talking to a recording, I'm afraid. :(
hahahahaha I don't know why but that is just funny.
Post edited June 01, 2011 by Arianus
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Taleroth: I heard that the commies are EVERYWHERE
The difference is while the 50s cry of Commies as a national threat was fear mongering propaganda, this is the cry that's been echoing through time far longer, has far more basis in empirical fact, and simply goes "we're the government, and we're here to help."

Meanwhile, if it was simply car manufacturers putting in these things to record measures to improve performance, safety, etc through thorough real world testing (in a way, much like Minecraft's little experiment of open beta testing), fine. You could simply choose a different car. Once it becomes invasive, mandated government observation, it 1) never goes away unless by extreme circumstance and 2) escalates, 100% of the time, without fail.

And on top of that, there's the whole pesky Constitution. They've managed to circumvent that by simply ignoring it, which goes a long way to showing how much trust you should put in them helping you along in this endeavor.
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LordKuruku: Not very creative, huh? I strongly believe he lacks sentience. You're talking to a recording, I'm afraid. :(
It's less creative than you're insinuating. You're correct that it's a recording, but you're a generation removed from the source. Specifically, you missed the OP's post in that thread, a reply to one of my own, which read:
You don't know shit about animation, television, or marketing. Congratulations on trying to be a snob though, but you fail at that as well.
(You can find it on page five, I believe. It's below the threshhold and easy to miss, though it wasn't at the time of the post you quoted)

This fellow(the OP of this thread) seems to be under the impression that he can walk into a discussion and say this to people, and then when confronted with the fact that he's not actually contributing anything or making a valid argument, he's allowed to just do the verbose version of saying "NAH NAH NAH NAH I CAN'T HEAR YOU YOU ARE WRONG", which isn't right.
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Taleroth: I heard that the commies are EVERYWHERE
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nondeplumage: The difference is while the 50s cry of Commies as a national threat was fear mongering propaganda, this is the cry that's been echoing through time far longer, has far more basis in empirical fact, and simply goes "we're the government, and we're here to help."

Meanwhile, if it was simply car manufacturers putting in these things to record measures to improve performance, safety, etc through thorough real world testing (in a way, much like Minecraft's little experiment of open beta testing), fine. You could simply choose a different car. Once it becomes invasive, mandated government observation, it 1) never goes away unless by extreme circumstance and 2) escalates, 100% of the time, without fail.

And on top of that, there's the whole pesky Constitution. They've managed to circumvent that by simply ignoring it, which goes a long way to showing how much trust you should put in them helping you along in this endeavor.
It's funny how you know nothing about the legal system or the Constitution.
Post edited June 01, 2011 by RatherDashing
Ehh, my wire cutters and ECU programmer will fix the issue for me. <shrug>

Besides, a lot of newer cars had them installed already, before they were required to.
Post edited June 01, 2011 by Sielle