Ah yes, I forgot everyone who buys games posts on the forums so clearly a few posts in the forums represent everyone on Steam. Good argument. Or someone who understands that a business needs to expand when their previous areas of exclusivity are eroding ... But then making up groups that people belong to and then placing them into it seems to be a your 'go to' in discussions doesn't it.

I appreciate you saying that. :) I knew it was more or less still true, but I did have some concerns.

How it is not a good argument? I'm simply pointing out that GOG has a decent polite and civil community, while Steam is full of moronic teenagers who spew nothing but toxic garbage. If someone buys a game from Steam but never posts in the community, they aren't really part of it are they. Sure, indie games and less well known new games. I'm simply pointing out that bridging out always risk attracting the whole community from Steam/mainstream gaming.

It is civil.... as long as you do 100% agree with the company line. I have seen a lot of how 'civil' this community is when you have opinions which may not be what is expected.

Also, in this thread as you might remember that i mentioned that "The evil Dr. M may yet make a triumphant return this fall.", also TET said that "We will probably do something conference-ish this year, but precisely when is something about which I am unsure." source.

You can complain and crap on another community all you want for all I care, but we were talking about how many sales there would be on Steam for old games, and *you* are the one using the posting community as a sign that barely anyone there would bother.

If I knew you were just spewing some gall about the community there instead of actually continuing a meaningful discussion about sales numbers it could have saved us both some time.

I don't care how many sales Steam gets, because I don't think the baggage that comes with it is worth it; the toxic and immature communities of most modern games.

I don't want to ever have to come to GOG and see release threads and sub-forums of classic games spammed with crap like "LOLOLOL THIS GAME IS OOOOLD", "grafix suck shit man", "i will trade diz gaem for saints row dlc". Influx of people who don't come here for classic games would be the quickest way to kill GOG.

And there's no point in "discussing" sales numbers because neither GOG nor Steam publicly release those numbers, so even your comments about Steam selling heaps is pure speculation.

Sadly the bigger GOG gets the more and more you'll be seeing that, especially as the influx of Indie/Newer DRM-free games increases.

I don't agree it would kill GOG though. In my opinion it's a path they had to go down eventually to keep growing as a portal in the pace they were. Kill the community as it is, sure. Not that the current community doesn't have it's toxic moments. And the 'No Steam No buy' seems to have been picked up as well, you're starting to see the same harsh customer loyalty here as we see on Steam as well but the beginning stages. Even see people skipping getting a DRM free copy (and Steam key) for same price from a dev site ( where they'd get more) in favor of getting it on GOG. I personally completely understand the sentiment, but it *is* one of the things the GOG community used to complain about but seems to be growing into now as well :)

I don't care as long as the indie/newer games GOG accepts are "retro", as in those type of games attempting to recreate older styles of game, which seems viable when you consider most of the Kickstarter funded games are based on nostalgia and older style gameplay.

Given games like Assassin's Creed and Dragon Commander have appeared here I'm going to assume that GOG would accept newer titles as long as they are DRM-free, rather than whether they appear 'retro'.

I don't doubt these games sold more there than here, based on the larger install base alone, but I'm willing to bet it was mostly due impulse purchases, people who saw it on the front page one day and said "what the hell, I'll try it", or if they played it before, felt they were up for the nostalgia trip; and not because there is a dedicated fanbase for old games on Steam, eagerly anticipating the next release by Night Dive or someone else.

The oldie fanbase is indeed more exclusive to GOG, for the simple fact that it appeals to their tastes more. Just like there may be DRM-free games on Steam, but there's better places to find that, there are better places to find oldies, even if Steam does carry some.

My point is he's right to say it's a different audience.

I think there was a more general, modern thread than this one, for GOGs being released on Steam but I couldn't find it.... anyway, IHNMAIMS is on Steam now for $4.99 in US and 3.69€, if you are interested. Also Anachoronox, but that's SquareEidos.