Posted June 16, 2010

Maighstir
THIS KNIGHT MISLIKES THESE HEIGHTS
Registered: Nov 2008
From Sweden

michaelleung
YOU ARE ALL RETARDS
Registered: Sep 2008
From Canada
Posted June 16, 2010


Even if you don't understand networking, isn't this just common sense? I mean, it takes forever to go on certain websites since the Internet connection sucks.

I can't imagine you'd have to pay full price for games, plus a membership fee. Would you?
I can. It's a capitalist country after all.
Post edited June 16, 2010 by michaelleung

cogadh
Banned? Never.
Registered: Oct 2008
From United States

Maighstir
THIS KNIGHT MISLIKES THESE HEIGHTS
Registered: Nov 2008
From Sweden
Posted June 16, 2010

Prator
Reasonable-ish
Registered: Oct 2008
From United States
Posted June 16, 2010


Aliasalpha
Once Proud
Registered: Dec 2008
From Australia

Prator
Reasonable-ish
Registered: Oct 2008
From United States

Wolfox
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Registered: Sep 2008
From Brazil
Posted June 16, 2010
Common sense isn't. ;-)

TyrantGuardian
Starcraft Addict
Registered: May 2010
From Sweden
Posted June 16, 2010
I personally like the idea itself, but the latency, low resolution (720p), 30fps and the fact that you lose all your games as soon as you stop paying for the subscription ensures that I will never touch Onlive with a ten foot pole. And I was VERY excited when they announced it, for the record.

Andy_Panthro
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Registered: Oct 2008
From United Kingdom
Posted June 16, 2010

Might be worth investigating for those people who live within 100m of their servers. Presumably there's some major catch (other than playing via onlive)
I'm sure it would work fine at a range of 100 metres. Does this mean there will be a server on every street? Might get a touch expensive...

Aliasalpha
Once Proud
Registered: Dec 2008
From Australia
Posted June 16, 2010

Might be worth investigating for those people who live within 100m of their servers. Presumably there's some major catch (other than playing via onlive)

True but its only switch level speed that could make it truly viable and since the cable run of cat5e/cat6 is 100m they'd have to have servers everywhere. In theory they could do it with fibre and have a server every few streets but that'd be more expensive to set up

Lone3wolf
Kai Grandmaster
Registered: Mar 2009
From United Kingdom
Posted June 17, 2010
BT, the national phone company here, are rolling out "Fibre-to-the-cabinet" over the next few years (Yes, the UK national average *IS* ~2MB).
It's not gonna help a lot of people though - for example, myself, being less than a mile from a major city centre where you'd think speeds would be fastest, am around 350 metres *in a straight line* from the nearest cabinet, giving me ~850kb/s upload and a really shitty ~45kb/s upload on my ADSL line, which until my previous routers died was ~140KB/s. (6-7MB line)
Maybe I'll look into their ADSL2+ upgrade in a month or so and get those speeds "doubled".
Cable companies offer much faster speeds, but aren't available in all areas - Virgin, for example, is not available in my area....which I find puzzling to say the least.
Satellite is another option, but you do require a landline for that.
It's not gonna help a lot of people though - for example, myself, being less than a mile from a major city centre where you'd think speeds would be fastest, am around 350 metres *in a straight line* from the nearest cabinet, giving me ~850kb/s upload and a really shitty ~45kb/s upload on my ADSL line, which until my previous routers died was ~140KB/s. (6-7MB line)
Maybe I'll look into their ADSL2+ upgrade in a month or so and get those speeds "doubled".
Cable companies offer much faster speeds, but aren't available in all areas - Virgin, for example, is not available in my area....which I find puzzling to say the least.
Satellite is another option, but you do require a landline for that.

Andy_Panthro
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Registered: Oct 2008
From United Kingdom
Posted June 17, 2010

It's not gonna help a lot of people though - for example, myself, being less than a mile from a major city centre where you'd think speeds would be fastest, am around 350 metres *in a straight line* from the nearest cabinet, giving me ~850kb/s upload and a really shitty ~45kb/s upload on my ADSL line, which until my previous routers died was ~140KB/s. (6-7MB line)
Maybe I'll look into their ADSL2+ upgrade in a month or so and get those speeds "doubled".
Cable companies offer much faster speeds, but aren't available in all areas - Virgin, for example, is not available in my area....which I find puzzling to say the least.
Satellite is another option, but you do require a landline for that.
Where my flat is in Newcastle has recently been upgraded, so I get very quick speeds (most of the time anyway, at peak times it can get a touch slow).
However, I'm due to move out of the city soon, and the speeds there are much lower (probably less than half of what I'm getting now), so I'm thinking of switching to Virgin which I'll be able to get (there are some bonuses to the suburbs!).

Lone3wolf
Kai Grandmaster
Registered: Mar 2009
From United Kingdom
Posted June 17, 2010
Yeah, BT have definitely introduced traffic shaping from 1800-000, and more hours at weekend this last year and a bit.
Still, I can't complain too much. nice service, fast turn-around on repairs, and it's stable enough for almost anything I can throw at it. Not like these start-ups like TalkTalk that have "rented" the last half mile or so of cable from cabinets to homes and still use BT's infrastructure to deliver a shoddy service. BT may not be the cheapest option, but what the hell, they developed the infrastructure, they're developing the next stage, so why not be a part of that?.
I get the unlimited download package, and rarely come close to using the "fair usage" limit of 100gb a month (at which point they reduce your speeds during peak hours only)
Still, I can't complain too much. nice service, fast turn-around on repairs, and it's stable enough for almost anything I can throw at it. Not like these start-ups like TalkTalk that have "rented" the last half mile or so of cable from cabinets to homes and still use BT's infrastructure to deliver a shoddy service. BT may not be the cheapest option, but what the hell, they developed the infrastructure, they're developing the next stage, so why not be a part of that?.
I get the unlimited download package, and rarely come close to using the "fair usage" limit of 100gb a month (at which point they reduce your speeds during peak hours only)

Andy_Panthro
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Registered: Oct 2008
From United Kingdom
Posted June 17, 2010
Seems like we think alike Lone3wolf!
It's not too expensive if you get the package deal (phone, internet and BT Vision).
With that, it's comparable to similar packs from Sky or Virgin (which are essentially your three choices).
Anyway, to be a bit more on topic for a sec, it's really the disparity of infrastructure between locations that will hit OnLive and similar attempts hard.
One of the reasons Sky TV is dominant over other pay TV services is because you can get a satellite dish almost anywhere in the country. BT Vision and Virgin require either high speed internet access or cable at your location, both of which are very varied across the country.
OnLive has reduced it's potential user base by requiring people to live near it's servers, of which there will be few. Given the costs as well, I can't see anyone switching from a console or PC to using this system, even if it did work.
They seem to be aiming at a far too specific group: People who live near their servers, are interested in gaming, don't own a current console or gaming PC and can afford the service.
It's not too expensive if you get the package deal (phone, internet and BT Vision).
With that, it's comparable to similar packs from Sky or Virgin (which are essentially your three choices).
Anyway, to be a bit more on topic for a sec, it's really the disparity of infrastructure between locations that will hit OnLive and similar attempts hard.
One of the reasons Sky TV is dominant over other pay TV services is because you can get a satellite dish almost anywhere in the country. BT Vision and Virgin require either high speed internet access or cable at your location, both of which are very varied across the country.
OnLive has reduced it's potential user base by requiring people to live near it's servers, of which there will be few. Given the costs as well, I can't see anyone switching from a console or PC to using this system, even if it did work.
They seem to be aiming at a far too specific group: People who live near their servers, are interested in gaming, don't own a current console or gaming PC and can afford the service.