Posted March 18, 2010
cioran: Wraith, do you teach? Almost all the books lately are heavily slanted one way or another. Personally I think it's disgusting, but to be fair, this isn't just a right-wing thing.
Just an fyi, the books are too leftist oriented in my neighborhood. History textbooks here no longer have any names or dates or events (I'm serious, my friends are always complaing because these are on the state exams, but the city buys textbooks without them), they're a litany of real and imagined offenses cribbed from Howard Zinn. They're more aligned with W.Z Foster than Burkhardt. They're trying to destroy majoritarian history or the concept of an American nation. I read one that had nothing on WWII except the Japanese internment camps and the Holocaust. Nothing about the battles that were fought, or who Hitler was or the role of the Soviets and the Italians. It's a victim's guide to history.
That said this is still idiotic, but unsurprising. A sign of the times. Really, I want Liberalism back. The kind that believes in America and believes in progress, freedom of speech, all that rather than the kind that looks for oppression everywhere, denies all objective truth, censors the opposition, and reads Tarnac 9 manifestos.
kramhag: Classical liberalism led to the notion of modern imperialism and a plethora of terrible problems for the 3rd world. You attack Zinn for dumb reasons, the only way he departs from a traditional historical perspective is that he tries to see through nationalism by identifying with the US no more than any other country, even though he happened to be born here. All his works are spot on; a bit more geared for the layman especially when contrasted with scholars like Chomsky, but as a WWII veteran himself I think he objectively knew more on the subject then any conservative armchair military historian that have diluted the actual record Just an fyi, the books are too leftist oriented in my neighborhood. History textbooks here no longer have any names or dates or events (I'm serious, my friends are always complaing because these are on the state exams, but the city buys textbooks without them), they're a litany of real and imagined offenses cribbed from Howard Zinn. They're more aligned with W.Z Foster than Burkhardt. They're trying to destroy majoritarian history or the concept of an American nation. I read one that had nothing on WWII except the Japanese internment camps and the Holocaust. Nothing about the battles that were fought, or who Hitler was or the role of the Soviets and the Italians. It's a victim's guide to history.
That said this is still idiotic, but unsurprising. A sign of the times. Really, I want Liberalism back. The kind that believes in America and believes in progress, freedom of speech, all that rather than the kind that looks for oppression everywhere, denies all objective truth, censors the opposition, and reads Tarnac 9 manifestos.
Chomsky is an academic fraud. His degree rests on a non-falsifiable linguistic view of an underlying structure that is rendered suspect by several languages, semantics, and common sense. His popularity rests on several poorly reasoned left-anarchist Anti-American Polemics (outside his field of "expertise", btw). Also, look at Chomsky's funding sometime. He receives so much funding that he basically works for the government. That makes him either a hypocrite or a government shill. Take your pick. Either way I wouldn't buy his books (though I've read most of the linguistic and a few of the political ones). At least go with Bookchin. Kropotkin and Tolstoy are my favorite Anarchists though Bakunin and Stirner are also of interest.
I think Zinn's book is interesting taken on its own, the problem is that it's convinced several textbook folks to write minoritarian history as itself majoritarian. And yes, that's a problem. Big men do impact history. Alexander the Great or Napoleon weren't products of the times, they anticipated them. They were heroes, not oppressors. Also, dates matter. If you don't realize Zinn is historiographically radical (he's anti-Big Man, anti majority, against "significant" events, and averse to dates) you're a tad daft.
Liberalism = Imperialism? LOL. God help you if you see things so black and white. Look at the USSR some time and its relationship to the Eastern Bloc. Also, see Mercantilism - which if you want a cookie cutter answer was most obviously responsible for the onset of colonialism. Oh and the rum trade and about a half-dozen other things, including the complicity and factional struggles of "the conquered". Oh, and the gravest consequence of Colonialism was of course a monarchy - see: Leopold II.