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PixelBoy: There are several reasons, but for actual real reasons, four major ones are:
F rance
I taly
G ermany
S pain

...and the fact that it is costly to do translation and localisation for those countries. And that often inflates the price.
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If the cost of localisation is indeed reflected in the price, then Russian localisations apparently cost negative amounts of money :)
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Tarm: How come I'm not surprised. Steam and others are releasing old games faster than GOG and I wouldn't be surprised if their catalogue of old games soon are bigger than GOGs.
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tfishell: Perhaps it's time to take some of your business to Steam, then (if you haven't already).
I think that is why GOG shouldn't restrict itself only to classics, like some are demanding. When classics start appearing also on Steam (like they've done for quite awhile already), that's where many classic buyers go anyway, especially those who earlier bought everything except classics from Steam, and to whom GOG was only a place to buy some old DOS games (because they weren't on Steam).

No wonder GOG saw the need to expand also to indie games for extra revenue. They would probably be dead already if they had restricted themselves only to old games.

By the way, don't forget Origin, they now have old classics too. Knock yourself out there with old EA classics.

Oh, and for what its worth, many of the recent GOG indie releases seem quite interesting to me. :) Especially Crimzon Clover and Lumino City. Good thing that they appeared on GOG as well.
Post edited December 03, 2014 by timppu
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cataclism: Dude I get that you don't want to pay more than in the US but did you even bother researching why games tend to be more expensive over here in Europe before starting your crusade?
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PixelBoy: There are several reasons, but for actual real reasons, four major ones are:
F rance
I taly
G ermany
S pain

...and the fact that it is costly to do translation and localisation for those countries. And that often inflates the price.

Which really sucks, if all you need is the original English version of the game.

Of course then there's the whole VAT/Euro issue, but that is often just a poor excuse to keep higher prices. Often the price difference is nowhere near the VAT rates or currency conversion fees...
VAT/Euro is not a poor excuse. It's the main reason.
Let me quote myself from another thread:

There's two main reasons for the higher price of games in Europe (and other countries, but I'm going to focus on europe). These are:
1 - Higher taxes. Taxes on games and other entertainment products are commonly higher in Europe. In my country for example it's 23%. In the US sales tax very rarely goes above 10% (it varies by jurisdiction).
2 - In Europe and most other countries, sales tax is included in the price. In the US (and Canada as far as I know) it isn't. So if you are in a store in Europe and the price tag says "€50", when you get to register you pay €50 and nothing more. In the US if the price tag says "50$", you don't pay 50$. You pay 50$ PLUS sales tax. If sales tax is 8% for example, you end up paying 50$+50*0.08= 54$. If it were 23% like it is where I live it would be 61.5$ even though the price tag said 50.

By giving back the difference GOG is also giving you back the tax difference, therefore they quite probably actually make less money from selling games in Europe.
Now, VAT in my country is abnormally high but it's not much lower in most EU countries. In Germany, where Lifthrasil, whom I quoted, lives, it's 19%.

If taxes in the US were 19% like in Germany a game with "50$" on the tag would actually cost 59.5$. (50+50*0.019=59.9).
A game that costs 60$ would actually cost 71.4$ which translates to €58.0034 which is not that different from the 60$ many new games cost at launch (like the witcher 3 for example).

So yes, the difference in VAT rates and the fact that VAT is included in the price in the EU do explain it.
Post edited December 03, 2014 by cataclism
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tfishell: Perhaps it's time to take some of your business to Steam, then (if you haven't already).
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timppu: I think that is why GOG shouldn't restrict itself only to classics, like some are demanding. When classics start appearing also on Steam (like they've done for quite awhile already), that's where many classic buyers go anyway, especially those who earlier bought everything except classics from Steam, and to whom GOG was only a place to buy some old DOS games (because they weren't on Steam).

No wonder GOG saw the need to expand also to indie games for extra revenue. They would probably be dead already if they had restricted themselves only to old games.

By the way, don't forget Origin, they now have old classics too. Knock yourself out there with old EA classics.

Oh, and for what its worth, many of the recent GOG indie releases seem quite interesting to me. :) Especially Crimzon Clover and Lumino City. Good thing that they appeared on GOG as well.
(With all due respect [not trying to be rude], is this one of your most strongest opinions regarding GOG? Not that it's wrong, I've just seen you post this on multiple occasions. We "regulars" may have a tendency to repeat ourselves since we don't know who has seen what. ;) )

It's not too hard to understand why people who were with GOG from the very beginning want a focus on old games, though, if that's what attracted them here. It's a little selfish because they aren't considering GOG's financial situation, but we can sometimes be rude to them (especially those who don't post much and don't know this view is held in a negative light here).

As I have posted previously, it's a little frustrating to see regionally-priced indie games but no big-name AAA titles that we assumed would come thanks to regional pricing.

As I have posted previously, patching speed needs to improve if GOG wants to really compete with Steam and hopefully Galaxy will impove that.

And I don't know why I'm re-hashing what I've said numerous times and really need to go do other shit. X-P F**king addictive internet and fake-ADHD bullshit.
I'm continually amazed at how just about any topic on the GOG message boards can eventually turn into a debate on regional pricing... :/
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yyahoo: I'm continually amazed at how just about any topic on the GOG message boards can eventually turn into a debate on regional pricing... :/
I've gotten used to it. Along with the questions about LucasArts games, the need for updates and the eternal debate of whether there are DRM-Free games on Steam or not.
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yyahoo: I'm continually amazed at how just about any topic on the GOG message boards can eventually turn into a debate on regional pricing... :/
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Grargar: I've gotten used to it. Along with the questions about LucasArts games, the need for updates and the eternal debate of whether there are DRM-Free games on Steam or not.
True, those and the new trend of trolling threads with random, off-topic banter...
How many technical problems could the adventure games that run on SCUMMVM have? Release The Curse Of Monkey Island, Day Of The Tentacle, The Dig, Full Throttle, Maniac Mansion, Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade: The Graphic Adventure, Loom and Zak McKracken And The Alien Mindbenders now while we wait for the more technically challenging Lucasfilm titles. ;)

P.S. GOG, please consider releasing standalone classic versions of The Secret Of Monkey Island and Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge. Why?

-The special editions are PC only. A SCUMMVM alternative would allow Mac and Linux users to play.
-There's only English text in the special editions' classic mode.
-To give those only interested in the original versions a cheaper alternative.

Vote: http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/the_secret_of_monkey_island_original
Post edited December 04, 2014 by Barry_Woodward
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tfishell: (With all due respect [not trying to be rude], is this one of your most strongest opinions regarding GOG? Not that it's wrong, I've just seen you post this on multiple occasions. We "regulars" may have a tendency to repeat ourselves since we don't know who has seen what. ;) )
I think it is a point that needs to be repeated whenever someone suggests or implies that GOG should know its place, and restrict itself only to old games, specifically those obscure and unfamiliar games that no other store wants to sell (esp. Steam).

It is fine if one doesn't wish to buy indie games from GOG (even ones like Crimzon Clover or Lumino City, which I personally find interesting). It is another thing to whine when they appear on GOG.

As for classics nowadays appearing more and more on Steam, I'm not convinced it is GOG's fault either. Maybe the classics just sell 100x times better on Steam (just like everything else, even the despised indie games), so the publishers like Eidos and such want to publish them primarily there nowadays. Or EA wants to release its own classics increasingly in its own Origin store. That makes for an unstable market for GOG to restrict itself to, especially if "GOG regulars" might just as well buy them from Steam, like e.g. you suggested.

Anyway, hopefully the SW Battlegrounds RTS games appear on GOG, as well as KOTOR 2 and the Jedi Knight FPS series.
Post edited December 03, 2014 by timppu
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cataclism: Dude I get that you don't want to pay more than in the US but did you even bother researching why games tend to be more expensive over here in Europe before starting your crusade?
Nope. No need to research. It's easy. Many publishers demand higher prices because there are enough people, who are willing to pay. Sure, there are many ways PR departments can try to display their profit maximizing strategy in a rosy light. But it still boils down to simple market rules, the price is set to optimize the gain - and the customer decides, whether he wants to pay that price or not. And that's hardly a crusade, it's just not buying. ... You might want to look up the crusades in a history book. In may surprize you, but the crusaders did not go into the holy land just to state that they won't buy silk from the Saracens any more. They had quite different goals in mind, you know? ;-)
You are welcome to buy every game from every publisher in the world if you want to, to support those poor suppliers. But since my funds are limited, I will keep being selective about where I spend my money.
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Grargar: I've gotten used to it. Along with the questions about LucasArts games, the need for updates and the eternal debate of whether there are DRM-Free games on Steam or not.
You forget about redeeming GOG games on steam.
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P1na: You forget about redeeming GOG games on steam.
Ah yes, the "Saturday" thread.
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JudasIscariot:
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Barry_Woodward: How many technical problems could the adventure games that run on SCUMMVM have? Release The Curse Of Monkey Island, Day Of The Tentacle, The Dig, Full Throttle, Maniac Mansion, Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade: The Graphic Adventure, Loom and Zak McKracken And The Alien Mindbenders now while we wait for the more technically challenging Lucasfilm titles. ;)

P.S. GOG, please consider releasing standalone classic versions of The Secret Of Monkey Island and Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge. Why?

-The special editions are PC only. A SCUMMVM alternative would allow Mac and Linux users to play.
-There's only English text in the special edition's classic mode.
-To give those only interested in the original version a cheaper alternative.

Vote: http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/the_secret_of_monkey_island_original
There might be a LucasArts release tomorrow, since GOG posted this on their Twitch thread:
"Then, Thursday at 5PM GMT / 12PM EST / 9AM PST, come by Twitch.tv/GOGcom for a very special secret stream with Quill18. We can't tell you what it will be just yet, but we know it'll make many of you very happy"
It sure sounds like something with a lot of wishes from the wishlist will be added tomorrow.
Post edited December 03, 2014 by SCPM
Anyone ever consider the fact some of the "old classics" evil empire store is releasing may actually be turds rather than classics? (with the way the evil empire store works they accept *anything* good and bad).
Post edited December 03, 2014 by Niggles
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Niggles: Anyone ever consider the face some of the "old classics" evil empire store is releasing may actually be turds rather than classics?
Blasphemy! NAM is just as good as Duke 3D!