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grinninglich: I trust more Razor or Skidrow than i trust Ubisoft or Bethesda or EA.
That's a thing I can agree on.
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grinninglich: Yes of course it still exists but in these days known crackers do it for freedom and purpose is not infect computers but provide users a "clean" and "unshackled" software.
To be fair, they're not doing it to provide a service, but out of some previously misguided anti-corporate sentiment and for scene reputation.

It's just a shame that things started going drastically downhill when that anti-corporate sentiment started to become justified.
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grinninglich: I trust more Razor or Skidrow than i trust Ubisoft or Bethesda or EA.
You know what the great irony is? Razor1911, Fairlight and Skidrow are older and more established than most of the publishers whose games they crack.
Post edited September 12, 2012 by jamyskis
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F4LL0UT: That's a bit naive. Just two years ago a friend of mine cracked some game. He ran it, everything went fine, when he left it his desktop displayed a message that his PC was hacked and his browsers would only open one weird page. That kind of stuff doesn't happen as often anymore, usually the communities filter these kinds of harmful things, but it still does happen.
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grinninglich: No, your friend is naive. I had been downloading cracked games for 10 years and i haven't yet seen a virus or trojan.
Of course you haven't, because usually the whole point of viruses and trojans is to remain undetected, so that the user is unaware of its existence.

Just yesterday there was yet another bot attack on certain servers. It is not like the users of most of those bot machines even know that their systems are being used to help with the bot attacks. Or, a keylogger which makes itself known, is a very poorly coded keylogger.

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grinninglich: I trust more Razor or Skidrow than i trust Ubisoft or Bethesda or EA.
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F4LL0UT: That's a thing I can agree on.
But the problem is that it is not Razor and Skidrow who are sharing the torrents of the games. In fact I remember reading in the past that at least some pirate groups are against torrent sharing. I don't know why, maybe they are into cracking just for the fame, but still don't like everyone playing games for free (because then they will have less and less to crack in the future), or whatever.

It is some unknown sharer(s) who just put those releases available, and who knows how they have "enhanced" them.

But as someone said, freeware software in general has potentially the same problem. But in such cases it would be much easier to track down who were the culprits sharing the trojans.
Post edited September 12, 2012 by timppu
Someone may have already mentioned it, but Ubi is doing worse than simple always on DRM, they're going to a Free To Play model for many of their major franchises including Settlers and HOMM. Can you really have F2P without constantly being online? Not really. So this idea of scrapping always-on DRM really can't be entirely true. The way I see it, F2P is a form of DRM...
i didint buy a single ubisoft game ever since the crap they did with assassin creed.... nice to see they took there heads out of there arses. If they back patch there older games i have no problem buying them, if they remove the DRM.