Here's a few real-life examples.

My old math teacher and his family was surrounded by thugs and they were closing a circle. He took his wife and his baby and they ran as shouted as loudly as they could and just charged one of the guys. They were still open enough that it was a 2-on-one situation and they were loud and moving fast. the guy just stepped aside and they ran past safely.


Another situation is one I saw on security footage. A police officer was in a facility holding one gang member in a public waiting room that slowly filled up with people. He was waiting for medical assistance for the gangster, so he had to stay put. Other officers were on the way, but still 5 minutes off. As each person entered the room, the cop would survey his surroundings. He was suspicious.

Suddenly, as if with an invisible cue that only gangsters could see, all of the people in the room stood up and charged after the cop while, simultaneously, roughly 10 people ran into the room from two doors on either side of the room.

In less than a second, that room had at least 20 gangsters targeting one lonely cop. The cop spun like a ballerina on his toe while holding the button on his mace. All 20 guys fell to the floor just as quickly as they had charged him. The closest one was maybe 4 feet away from him.

The cop starting cuffing (and maybe zip-tying? I can't remember how he restrained them exactly). It took him so long that back-up arrived and joined him in the restraining. They all stayed on the ground reeling in agony for several minutes.


I was amazed at how well some mace worked. Carry some whenever you're in a dark alley. I think I may just buy some for Christmas. :)

The 3310 could have KO at least 3 of them. Do that with a Lumia/Galaxy/iPhone today.

certain someone once told me "Better to be judged by three than carried by six" - and i do agree.

If it looks like someone isnt having any qualms about using force against me, i dont think id have too bad conscience about using the same means against them. Ofcourse, in Finland this would make me criminal (as in that quote) - its still better than being dead or permanently injured though.

Finnish law roughly means that you have to let yourself to be hit/stab/shot or whatever and then pay the other party's laundry bill for staining them with your own blood :(

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oh, given choice its always best to run for it if you have good the choice. Majority of people do not know how to handle any sort of weapon and are just likely to either harm themselves or let the that very same weapon to be used against them.

For the people who think they -must- carry some weapon in their neighbourhood to feel safe my advice is: Move out!
you can bed the iphone into three pieces and usem them as shuriken \o/

...with my Lumia i must be content to call emergency number. Works, ive tried ;)

Reminds me off, I am still using my old 2616 IIRC, the one with the antenna still standing out..........

But I was never asked to give up this deadly device by police or airport control!!! :P

i would ask for a drm free beating and boast about it here on gog later for sympathy .

But seriously though just like the multiple paths we see in adventure games you can use the wits path or fists paths to get it.

Run away until your ambushers are no longer on your radar, then fast travel to the nearest city to stock up on arrows and health potions. Then return to the ambush location and ambush the ambushers.

I know this fact: I've had my share of threats and I must I'm quiet lively for a supposed dead guy :)

BTW, the only real Don is Amitabh Bachchan ;)

hh true,true...

Surely an international forum is not the most useful place to ask at least the legal aspects of the original question? Different countries have different laws.

It all depends on the situation. For instance, am I carrying a bag full of tacos or a bag full maxipads for the wife? If those maxipads don't get home to wife, then things could get quite nasty at home.

Drop a flashbang and escape. OR escape ninja style. OR pepper spray them all in the eyes and escape. Trying to fight them would be like playing Russian roulette or worse.

If you haven't had at least two or three death threats against you, then you haven't truly lived life. :)

Well often enough, all the equipment you need is a can of outside pepper spray, which I and my wife keep handy. And FLEE! Not necessarily for your life, flee so wind doesn't decide that you deserve some pepper.

Legally, self defense only is in effect for as long as the opposing party is capable and attempting to cause harm. If they brandish a weapon, purposely appear to intimidate or harm you, intentionally or jokingly, it is in that effect that you can defend yourself. If you are trained in a way that you can defend yourself, you can only do so for as long as you are unable to escape the situation. When there is an opening or moment where you can leave, run away, or the attackers relent, and you stay to fight, then you are the aggressor and will be persecuted for assault.

Smart move. I would of done the same thing.