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ddmuse: snip
I've met people like you before. Strictly segregating hard sci-fi from soft sci-fi and a host of other subgenres. I never understood why, that is all. To me, a story is a story.

And by the way, "much if not most of what many consider sci-fi isn't sci-fi" is a fallacy. There is not a single elite group defining what sci-fi is. It's the general consensus that does this. And the general consensus is that Star Wars is sci-fi, even though it has hyperdrives and lightsabers and the bloody Force which is about as unscientific as you can possibly get.
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GameRager: 1. Some PCS are self contained in one unit containing the monitor.
Yeah, yeah. Smartass. :-P

You get the point of the example, tho?

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GameRager: 2. I like sci-fi showcasing impossible tech. That's the whole point of sci-fi anyways, or a good part of it. IMO it's better to not ask how such tech would be possible, but to ooh and aaah at it being used to great effect by the protangonists.
Me too. But intelligent clockwork automatons in what appears to be an early industrial society differs significantly from starships or phasers in the distant future.

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bazilisek: I've met people like you before. Strictly segregating hard sci-fi from soft sci-fi and a host of other subgenres. I never understood why, that is all. To me, a story is a story.

And by the way, "much if not most of what many consider sci-fi isn't sci-fi" is a fallacy. There is not a single elite group defining what sci-fi is. It's the general consensus that does this. And the general consensus is that Star Wars is sci-fi, even though it has hyperdrives and lightsabers and the bloody Force which is about as unscientific as you can possibly get.
Star Wars is fantasy. Its primary concern isn't social issues involving science and technology. It's about the characters. The lightsabers and whatnot are just trappings.

Sometimes the lines do blur, I admit, and I'm not an obsessive purist. I'm not saying that Star Wars is bad, just that it isn't sci-fi in any meaningul sense. I enjoy it for what it is.
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GameRager: 1. I get you obsess too much over fiction and don't just enjoy it for entertainment's sake.

2. Maybe that society evolved differently and they got that tech for some reason earlier? And for some other reason they advanced some tech and not others?

3. Star Wars is fantasy sci-fi.....it has futuristic tech and aliens and everything else sci-fi-ish.
2. At least wind-up machinery is less demanding of electricity. ;)