While I love chewing out people for incomeptence, I've seen something like this before. So I have some sympathy. However I hope that the unofficial word goes out about the contractors group top dogs so they don't get hired for another project any time soon. The biggest problem is, once a project gets messed up this badly, it is sometimes faster/cheaper to do it over from scratch. That is how bad a poorly designed project can get. Given the minimal "blog" I'm seeing at the live site, I'd guess a rewrite is not too far fetched
Funny thing is, in constructions projects, it is not uncommon to have penalty clauses for late delivery (or flawed). Same for Web hosting (SLA). It may be a good idea for contractors/subcontractors to have a late penalty clause in their contracts. Sure, developers would fuss and whine, but its common in other industries and the IT field is still extremely "wild west" in comparison of other industries. It is possible for a lawsuit to be filed, or at least have the case sent to arbitration as I've seen done but lawsuits are expensive to start (as well as defend against)

It's really to the point where it's almost too late now. All the initial reviews, reactions, problems, etc... are already posted here, on gamefaqs, and elsewhere. It would probably be better for this one to create some sub-forums and just use this as an official forum. Even if they get a forum up and running some time in the near future, it will take weeks or months for it catch up to the already filled forums here or elsewhere. Plus, how many times can you make yourself go there to check. I've given up and made myself at home here and on gamefaqs. I might check the new forums for news updates, but I'm quite content to be posting here.

So, my opinion is to just let it go, and get on with patching, releasing new DLC, and creating an expansion or TW3. I'd rather have those than some too late to the party forums.

You know, there's also the fact that some of us old witchers feel quite at home at the witcher forum and won't let it go just because someone said so.

And I don't know what is there to catch up on. When the forum is up again, we'll go on as before - except if they managed to disfigure and make it dysfunctional again, like they did once before...

Agreed. Theres also the fact that alot of the best modders and community contributors became moderators for CDPR on the old forums. It was a strong community and alot of those members dont seem to have moved here in the meantime.

This forum is doing a great job as a sort of life-line for alot of us,but it lacks the overall cohesiveness of the official forums in my opinion.

Yes agreed.

The other issue is that many of the suggestions for improvements to the game are spread across a number of different sites rather than being centralised where the Devs can see them easily.

Even some temporary forums would have been good, TW2 has been well recieved and the comments and criticism have mostly been very constructive so CDP hasn't had to worry about a deluge of toxic postings (sorry OT - like a certain space mmo is getting at the moment).

what id like to see is people send cdp a message and just ignore their forum IF they ever decide to put it back up.

just stay here, and make THIS the official witcher forum. its clearly run by more capable, intelligent and competent people with more interest in their community than what the developers are ever capable of providing.

After seeing two such postings from you in a row: are you only here to complain?

I doubt people will do as you like for lots of reasons. Like they know this is basically the same company, or sister company, to be precise. Like they know the onslaught is too much for a forum without subforums for one game, because it already has to manage subforums for every one of the games in their catalogue. But you are free to not use the official forums later. Let other people decide for themselves.

why do people get caught up with gog being under the cdp umbrella? gog did not create the game, and the developers do not run this forum, so for all intents and purposes there is zero connection between the two APART from the company link - they should be taken as two completely separate entities..

...and what onslaught. gog seems more than capable of providing everything the witcher community needs... i mean they HAVE been doing it for the past 2 months because the developers dont want to.

face it.. gog ENTIRELY ON ITS OWN handled the developers own line presence during launch for their game! if they can handle providing the online presence for the entire lead-up, launch, AND post-launch community care, i think they can handle the community now that things have slowed down.

funnily enough nothing in my last post was a complaint (perhaps reading comprehension is a problem for you i guess), merely just a statement than gog functions perfectly and is atleast run by competent people, and are doing a far better job than the developers ever could, or ever seem to want to do.

What they HAVE been doing, is to provide us refuge here. The GoG forums are barely moderated and usually it isn't neccessary either, because all those troubles we have with this new release? The good old games have already outgrown those for the most part.

GoG kindly did provide a platform, where users can come together and help each other. The main tech support is still provided by http://www.en.thewitcher.com/support/. Both together are this makeshift support that we have now. But that is not the long term solution. Yes, probably my reading comprehension is at fault, if I interpret an appeal to boycott the official forum as kind of hostile. How silly of me.

You guys have had a lot of problems with outsourcing.

Hey there, Marcin360!
whatzzup! remember me I hope :)

Lurking around here just to say "hello" to my elder mates and to everyone witcher-addicted!

Still in Chp 2, I've no idea when I'll to finish the game. Too busy lately :) Plus, I'm working on both Witcher wiki and Witcher gallery on deviantart, so.... pant! :)

Outsourcing problem, hu? Kinda odd word to say "No forum until.... you end the game 16 times" maybe? lol :D

Just don't let the summer pass without it, okay?
And oh..... my manners, sorry:
I'm Secondchildren, international moderator from the forum official forum (when there was one). Hope some of of you remember me.... or miss me :D lol
cheers!

The famous Secondchildren has entered the building...and not even finished the game yet?

For shame.

Course I remember you, we've had some interesting discussions over there... long time ago... hope it won't be too long now until we old ones get together again... :)

The fact that you would even consider rallying people to do this is cause for complaint. Unfortunately for you, most people are not that petty (I hope).

Yep thanks ^_^
And I remeber you and a lot of other people here :)

@Marcin360
Don't forget emoticons!!!! :D

@scampywiak
You betcha T_T