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NovumZ: Dll's should come included with games is the bottom line! This way you can run it on vc10 which in all is best one after 08, rest is trash.
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JMich: A game that comes with the dll runs with the dll it comes with, not any other installed dll, be that vc10, vc08 or vc17. That is the basis of dll hijacking after all.
I've installed abzu (classic installers) towards the end it installed both vc15's sneakily which I thought at the time; was suspicious because before it had a separate vcredists window but I thought; eh.. what a heck maybe this time I won't have issues with new games running.

I got so upset after seeing |1-1-0.dll is missing from your computer that I had enough. Iike I've said before; grim dawn has all the dll's included so that I was able to completely uninstall vc15 and run it better on vc13.

Abzu had no dll's I needed to start the game.

Also once again: vc15 had initiated without my permission windows update. So that makes me think.
Post edited March 15, 2018 by NovumZ
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NovumZ: I've installed abzu (classic installers) towards the end it installed both vc15's sneakily which I thought at the time; was suspicious because before it had a separate vcredists window but I thought; eh.. what a heck maybe this time I won't have issues with new games running.
You can run most of the vc installers with the /q or /quiet command line argument to not give an interactive window, that will also self install. Add the /norestart one to not be bothered about having to restart. Helps immensely when installing a lot of packages, like at the end of a game installation.

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NovumZ: I got so upset after seeing |1-1-0.dll is missing from your computer that I had enough. Iike I've said before; grim dawn has all the dll's included so that I was able to completely uninstall vc15 and run it better on vc13.
I've no idea what redistributables Abzu or Grim Dawn require to run properly. You can look at their executables' folders to see what dlls they come with, which should tell you if they are using their own dlls or the ones installed in the system.

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NovumZ: Abzu had no dll's I needed to start the game.
Which means that if you don't have the redistributables it requires installed, the game wouldn't run.

P.S. VC2015 has an offline installer, but VC2015 Update 3 has an online installer only, which uses the windows update service to grab the needed files. You can run it with the /layout argument to create an offline installer. Not sure how useful you'll find this information now, but it may help someone else in the future.
Thanks Mich!
Looks like I'm pretty much screwed then. I've uninstalled all of my network drivers to be offline only rig in part also cryptominers using our pc's resources not to mention Microsoft stealing our private data. Oh well; back to consoles. I have 56 games from gog to play for a while.
Post edited March 16, 2018 by NovumZ
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NovumZ: Unless you have windows updates on and connected to the internet!?
Also vcredist 2015 is a mandatory install with this game (Classic Installer) I haven't checked other newer games, anyone with offline gaming PC with the same problem?
Hi NovumZ
I'm also a Win7 Offline gamer so what you wrote is very important, and sad to see it downvoted.
I haven't encounter what you found but nevertheless I'm extremely thankful you share this cause I might in the future.

Although I haven't test it, I understood the lastest version of Visual C has not a dedicated standalone offline installer but the online installer can make itself one. I hope so!

My question to those that do care about offline gaming, if API installation are made online only, contrary to until now that they always had a standalone installer, what use has a classic GOG installer?
I'm worried Galaxy will be mandatory in the future but problably before that it will be microsoft screwing us

I know my days as a Windows gamer playing newly released games are numbered, but I thought as long as Galaxy is optional and we have Windows 7 official support it would be ok, but I guess this can kill it.

Irelevant if its not GOG or the developers fault, the day I'm not able to install/play a PC Game offline is the day I stop buying new games.
Am I the only one?
Probably GOG and developers would want to test if newly released games can be played offline cause otherwise they will lose me as a customer.
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NovumZ: Unless you have windows updates on and connected to the internet!?
Also vcredist 2015 is a mandatory install with this game (Classic Installer) I haven't checked other newer games, anyone with offline gaming PC with the same problem?
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triple_l: Hi NovumZ
I'm also a Win7 Offline gamer so what you wrote is very important, and sad to see it downvoted.
I haven't encounter what you found but nevertheless I'm extremely thankful you share this cause I might in the future.

Although I haven't test it, I understood the lastest version of Visual C has not a dedicated standalone offline installer but the online installer can make itself one. I hope so!

My question to those that do care about offline gaming, if API installation are made online only, contrary to until now that they always had a standalone installer, what use has a classic GOG installer?
I'm worried Galaxy will be mandatory in the future but problably before that it will be microsoft screwing us

I know my days as a Windows gamer playing newly released games are numbered, but I thought as long as Galaxy is optional and we have Windows 7 official support it would be ok, but I guess this can kill it.

Irelevant if its not GOG or the developers fault, the day I'm not able to install/play a PC Game offline is the day I stop buying new games.
Am I the only one?
Probably GOG and developers would want to test if newly released games can be played offline cause otherwise they will lose me as a customer.
Thank you for seeing it and understanding how important this place was for us pc exiles with good hearted community members helping each other. No worries about my downvotes :P I don't; well a little but it's ok. My day just got better - thank you :)
Why does gog release games without necessary dll's in the first place? I'm talking here about vanilla windows 7 off of Windows OS CD without internet connection.
On store page it is written windows 7 but games won't start because you need SP1 which requires internet connection.
Can gog fix this error and be specific: windows 7sp1 minimum requirement, so for people without internet connected gaming pc's is more clear.

Or

Just do the right thing and bundle dll's with games instead of relying on microsoft updates.
I'm so glad i don't care about any of that shit and just install and play my games.
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amok: I'm so glad i don't care about any of that shit and just install and play my games.
I'm glad that you do.

I just need a system requirements clarification from gog.com team.
Post edited March 16, 2018 by NovumZ
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triple_l: Probably GOG and developers would want to test if newly released games can be played offline cause otherwise they will lose me as a customer.
Yes they can.
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triple_l: Probably GOG and developers would want to test if newly released games can be played offline cause otherwise they will lose me as a customer.
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ZFR: Yes they can.
Go away and your down-vote posse zfr!
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ZFR: Yes they can.
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NovumZ: Go away and your down-vote posse zfr!
Not sure if you're just trolling now, or genuinely don't understand what Tom and JMich explained, but newly released games, including ABZU, can be played offline.
I can confirm this. It did not work on my pc.
Windows 7 64 bit
Intel i7 4790
Nvidia GTX 750ti 4GB
Gigabyte Z97P-D3
16 GB RAM
Directx 11

I got my refund thanks to the great customer support.
It's such a pity.
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it seems like there's a new low for gog every day, who could have thought back in the old days that gog really manages to become shittier than steam?
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NovumZ: Go away and your down-vote posse zfr!
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ZFR: Not sure if you're just trolling now, or genuinely don't understand what Tom and JMich explained, but newly released games, including ABZU, can be played offline.
I'm hardly a troll. Look at my rep.

Can be played yes, on windows 10 for sure; not so much on windows 7 without internet access according to Mich himself since I need to be online to properly install/apply win7sp1 redist2015.

Mich said: "VC2015 has an offline installer, but VC2015 Update 3 has an online installer only, which uses the windows update service to grab the needed files. You can run it with the /layout argument to create an offline installer. Not sure how useful you'll find this information now, but it may help someone else in the future."
Post edited March 17, 2018 by NovumZ
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ZFR: Not sure if you're just trolling now, or genuinely don't understand what Tom and JMich explained, but newly released games, including ABZU, can be played offline.
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NovumZ: I'm hardly a troll. Look at my rep.

Can be played yes, on windows 10 for sure; not so much on windows 7 without internet access according to Mich himself since I need to be online to properly install/apply win7sp1 redist2015.

Mich said: "VC2015 has an offline installer, but VC2015 Update 3 has an online installer only, which uses the windows update service to grab the needed files. You can run it with the /layout argument to create an offline installer. Not sure how useful you'll find this information now, but it may help someone else in the future."
So even on Windows 7 as long as you have the redists you can *play* it offline as much as you want.

And even if we stretch the meaning of "play" to include "install" then if I understand JMich's post, you can get offline installers of the redists too.