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Fairfox: i was warned 'boot swearin'
so it happens
Yep, I can confirm that. I've been warned for the use of derogatary language when I called Twitter people who demanded that Linko90 gets fired "re...dacted" (<- I didn't call 'em that, but something else that also begins with "re" and ends with "ted").

That's the only warning I got, though. And I've made excessive use of swear words and directly attacked some "special friends" I have here more than once (<- people I really don't like because of what they did when forums were unmoderated and completely went to shit). If you ask me, GOG's still too lenient when it comes to moderation. I would've given someone like me (but not just me) a temporary ban already...

But again: Of what I've seen so far, chandra's doing a splendid job (love the factual tone and the multiple and fair warnings before closing threads). But that's how all new mods started before we drove them mad :/
i just made a thread and i do't see it. what's going on gog?

(nvm)
Post edited November 12, 2018 by Minuteworld
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kaboro: Um hmm, and the abuse is only possible because of the thread deleting policy.
If the moderators would simply give a warning and then lock a thread instead of just deleting it, things would be different i think.
First off, GOGs forums aren;t heavily moderated at all. Mods almost never delete a thread. The report spam button functions as a Vote to delete the thread. After several reports are made (reports is a huge misnomer here) then the thread is auto deleted. It has nothing to do with moderation. Just GOG's substandard forum and lazy programming of a function that people abuse to censor those they don't like. It's not GOG that is censoring people by deleting threads, it's people abusing the lazy programming.
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RWarehall: The problem is that GoG's forum has been broken for years. I'd venture to guess that at least 80% of the time that mods have been accused of deleting threads, it wasn't them. Of course its impossible to know given those threads just disappear.

Lately it seems the official policy seems to be to just lock them. So unless there are multiple mods and they are on different pages, you can thank someone else for being that kind of special jerk.

Incidentally, it seems a 2nd Youtuber has reported that Linko has been fired and claims to have verified it himself. But keep telling people its only Youtubers, can't believe them.
An actual journalist has confirmed it. Ian is most certainly biased without a doubt - but he does follow actual journalistic practices. If he says he has a source within GoG I believe him.
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hedwards: I wish GOG would just get her a subscription to grammar lee
ftfy :P
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hedwards: I wish GOG would just get her a subscription to grammar lee
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real.geizterfahr: ftfy :P
You'll rue the day you crossed me. *shakes fist*
Is deleting bad threads a solution? No. That's almost like erasing history simply because "we don't like it, and want to bury it.

Is the moderation here on GOG impeding my "free "peach""?
No. Long answer: inconsistencies asides (and I'm sure others will agree), the forums here are much more "loose" kontra steam. In spite of my certain disdane for authorities, in the end I have to agree with Linko and the relative simple rules on GOG; no perverse swearing, no name calling (direct ad hominems), no excessive politics - and that sorts.

One could argue that "The Rise of Digital Authoritarianism " are becoming more and more of a problem in the west, but again; GOG IS after all just a company that sells games and they just happens to have a forum, and we do have hundreds of *chan's to further exploits our need for talking about politics... and other things.

Just imagine if GOG took the same path as Netflix did just to hamper any negative reviews? O_o
That would be disastrous in my mind XD

EDIT: For some strange reason I wrote Niko instead of Linko... anyway, it's fixed now XD
Post edited November 12, 2018 by sanscript
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kaboro: the relatively free forums of Steam
Okey :)
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sanscript: he forums here are much more "loose" kontra steam.
If that means GOG's forum (depsite what the OP claims) are alot less restrictive than Steam's then I agree.

Steams forums are pretty much under lock and key and also very toxic (why would you even post there.) Here there is some level of moderation (which is needed) and not as toxic.
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kaboro: Um hmm, and the abuse is only possible because of the thread deleting policy.
If the moderators would simply give a warning and then lock a thread instead of just deleting it, things would be different i think.
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paladin181: First off, GOGs forums aren;t heavily moderated at all. Mods almost never delete a thread. The report spam button functions as a Vote to delete the thread. After several reports are made (reports is a huge misnomer here) then the thread is auto deleted. It has nothing to do with moderation. Just GOG's substandard forum and lazy programming of a function that people abuse to censor those they don't like. It's not GOG that is censoring people by deleting threads, it's people abusing the lazy programming.
Oh that explains a lot, thank you.
Personally i dont consider it lazy programming, to me it serves as an indicator of the quality of the community.
Got my first negative rep over a thread that i made long ago asking to be able to skip updates and be able to return to previous unupdated versions of the game. Was flamed by the community for my "horrible" idea, got negative rep and subsequently left the GoG forums for years. The irony that my hated suggestion was actually implemented :P

Came back few days ago to look for answers to some technical issues, somehow had positive rep again, made this thread and im back to negative rep.

Dont care about the rep, but to me, comparing the Steam and GoG forums, its obvious how the voting system fails and how it gets abused.
Post edited November 12, 2018 by kaboro
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Pond86: Steams forums are pretty much under lock and key and also very toxic (why would you even post there.) Here there is some level of moderation (which is needed) and not as toxic.
You realise that saying that Steam forums are under lock and key and also toxic is a contradiction, right?

Also it depends on your perception of what toxic is.
To me some foul mouthed kiddies talking smack in forums doesnt count as toxic. Its noisy and irritating but not toxic.
Also i found that i could have more constructive debates with young and aggressive users than with some mature ones.
With a bit of patience and reason you can get a kid out of their foul mouthed rage, while no amount of patience and reason will take a mature out of their camouflaged aggression, where they take everything personally and act offended out of their minds and entitled to offend with impunity.
Post edited November 12, 2018 by kaboro
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kaboro: You realise that saying that Steam forums are under lock and key and also toxic is a contradiction, right?

Also it depends of your perception of what toxic is.
To me some foul mouthed kiddies talking smack in forums doesnt count as toxic. Its noisy and irritating but not toxic.
Also i found that i could have more constructive debates with young and aggressive users than with some mature ones.
With a bit of patience and reason you can get a kid out of their foul mouthed rage, while no amount of patience and reason will take a mature out of their camouflaged aggression, where they take everything personally and act offended out of their minds and entitled to offend with impunity.
If the mods see it then they will lock it in certain forums sure. But in most of the times they dont. (My point is I see alot more locked topics there then I do here.)

Certain developers arnt active on steam and get thrown alot of abuse as well, yet do they step in no. I ask something about a game there even on their forums (I replied to something about Quantum Break years back) and ill usually gte nothing or mouthed off too. Where as you ask that here annd you wount.

And it shouldnt take paitence. Time after time I see alot of silly things asked there cause their no mod.
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real.geizterfahr: snip
I salute your post. Such worthy contribution, and it makes me regret all the more that I didn't join GOG many years ago, considering the calibre of character shown of those from your GOG era.
Who knows though how long I would have stuck around during the "dark ages", but it would have been worth it.
:)