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OP, the included ScummVM files are not only very small, they are located completely within the game's directory and are "portable" installations that don't mess with your "main" ScummVM installation. It's very easy to completely forget about the included ScummVM files, especially since you boast about your hard drive space. Many people have already gone over why there's no reason for GOG to mass-migrate all of their ScummVM supported games over to the new version.
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SirPrimalform: This is still going?

OP, the included ScummVM files are not only very small, they are located completely within the game's directory and are "portable" installations that don't mess with your "main" ScummVM installation. It's very easy to completely forget about the included ScummVM files, especially since you boast about your hard drive space. Many people have already gone over why there's no reason for GOG to mass-migrate all of their ScummVM supported games over to the new version.
I went into how portable the files are(unlike older games that altered the registry and changed one's system in other ways, making it hard to remove all traces) myself above. I think Op is making more of this than needs to be made.
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Master_Chen: ScummVM 2.1.0 was released at the start of October. We are at the latter part of the second half of November right now.
They (GOG's operators/system handlers) had more than a full month worth of time to test/update/improve these things, if anything.
You think that less than 2 months is enough time for gog to test over 100 (dunno the exact numbers, probably more) ScummVM games :D? What do you think, they just load the file into ScummVM, see if it opens the game and then call it a day? Why do you think it is financially worth it for gog to do this testing (and then do it all over again when a new version of ScummVM is released) for games with a version of ScummVM that works perfectly fine?

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Master_Chen: ...it almost feels like you didn't read thoroughly what have been said initially/previously by me, before you decided to post this.
Because, if you'd were to read it, you'd see that my gripes with this whole thing lie in other factors than the one you're mentioning.
But then your complaints are even more minor. Size was already a minor issue, but now you're saying it annoys you that it makes a mess when you go looking inside game folders? Don't look, then (or if you do, just delete it). Open your master installation of ScummVM, and just access your newly installed game from there.

ScummVM NEEDS to be bundled with the games to be easily playable out of the box. The version of ScummVM bundled with each game has been tested to work properly with each game, and any bugs have been documented. How is it inferior? Because it doesn't do 4k for a 25 year old game?
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babark: You think that less than 2 months is enough time for gog to test over 100 (dunno the exact numbers, probably more) ScummVM games :D? What do you think, they just load the file into ScummVM, see if it opens the game and then call it a day? Why do you think it is financially worth it for gog to do this testing (and then do it all over again when a new version of ScummVM is released) for games with a version of ScummVM that works perfectly fine?
I think he thinks they just click run on each system and bam.....tested...as you said. But yeah, in reality they need to test each game for hours on each system, while also doing other work(making the new galaxy, setting up sales, testing new games, etc).

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babark: But then your complaints are even more minor. Size was already a minor issue, but now you're saying it annoys you that it makes a mess when you go looking inside game folders? Don't look, then (or if you do, just delete it). Open your master installation of ScummVM, and just access your newly installed game from there.
This....his problem truly is a "first world problem", as the saying goes.

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babark: ScummVM NEEDS to be bundled with the games to be easily playable out of the box. The version of ScummVM bundled with each game has been tested to work properly with each game, and any bugs have been documented. How is it inferior? Because it doesn't do 4k for a 25 year old game?
That last bit: Exactly.....one can only make old games look so much better without having to redo all the graphics.
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SirPrimalform: This is still going?

OP, the included ScummVM files are not only very small, they are located completely within the game's directory and are "portable" installations that don't mess with your "main" ScummVM installation. It's very easy to completely forget about the included ScummVM files, especially since you boast about your hard drive space. Many people have already gone over why there's no reason for GOG to mass-migrate all of their ScummVM supported games over to the new version.
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GameRager: I went into how portable the files are(unlike older games that altered the registry and changed one's system in other ways, making it hard to remove all traces) myself above. I think Op is making more of this than needs to be made.
Without a doubt.
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SirPrimalform: The included ScummVM files are not only very small, they are located completely within the game's directory and are "portable" installations that don't mess with your "main" ScummVM installation
There should never ever be more than a single stand-alone installed copy of any particular software per a PC system given. That is just common sense. If it's not being done like that and you get several exactly same versions of exactly same software being installed on your configuration - it produces unnecessary clutter and inevitably leads to a mess in the long term. It's one thing if a person has several different versions of ePSXe/Snes9x/Redream (like a release 1.4 and a release 1.5 being installed separately, for example), but it's an absolutely another case when same exact version of exactly same software is being copied/installed on one single machine over and over again. That is a downright asinine, outright infantile thing to do, in my personal opinion. It's just a very bad form all-around, no matter how hard you might try closing eyes on it/ignore it or even try to excuse/justify it.
It's definitely NOT a good thing in any way, shape, or form.
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Master_Chen: There should never ever be more than a single stand-alone installed copy of any particular software per a PC system given. That is just common sense. If it's not being done like that and you get several exactly same versions of exactly same software being installed on your configuration - it produces unnecessary clutter and inevitably leads to a mess in the long term. It's one thing if a person has several different versions of ePSXe/Snes9x/Redream (like a release 1.4 and a release 1.5 being installed separately, for example), but it's an absolutely another case when same exact version of exactly same software is being copied/installed on one single machine over and over again. That is a downright asinine, outright infantile thing to do, in my personal opinion. It's just a very bad form all-around, no matter how hard you might try closing eyes on it/ignore it or even try to excuse/justify it. It's NOT a good thing in any way, shape, or form.
It's not the much clutter....all files are dumped into one folder(per game) which one then delete when they want.

Again, did you report the new Scumm version to gog to see what they say or do you just like complaining on the forums for sympathy and support?

Because many here have tried to explain(not justify, just explain) why gog would need time to do such things and how to get gog's attention on the matter & you keep trying to paint it as a worse problem than it is while seemingly not taking the problem to gog and seeing what they say.

This isn't a "social media site" like reddit/facebook/etc, where one can just drop a problem down and expect a bunch of automatic & possibly undeserved supportive/praising replies....your problem has been considered by many, we've given possible workarounds and info on how to contact the company to try and affect change, and you keep on blowing it out of proportion while seemingly looking for validating/supporting replies.
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babark: You think that less than 2 months is enough time for GOG to test over 100 (dunno the exact numbers, probably more) ScummVM games? What do you think, they just load the file into ScummVM, see if it opens the game and then call it a day?
Quite honestly - I personally strongly believe that they don't even "NEED" to "test everything from scratch" to "approve" and then "update" the piece of the software that's being bundled alongside those good old games. This is because we have a case here where it's not some intermediate nightly/canary or any other unpolished and unfinished state of the application, but a STABLE complete release which was ALREADY tested thoroughly and was approved for the "outing into the wild" by creators of the said software piece themselves. In my opinion, in such of a case, GOG doesn't "have to" test anything before updating the default package in which this piece of software is being bundled. It was already tested thoroughly by original devs and it was approved as fully working by them (deemed as being worthy of a full official release). And if it'd somehow was unstable/broken/bad, original developers obviously wouldn't have released it as a big stand-alone stable complete release to begin with. The mere fact alone that it exists now and that it was officially released, already means it's good enough for anyone and everyone to use, and thus it definitely must replace the 2 years-old version that literally became irrelevant and stale from that very point the newer stable rendition of this software was released to the public. If that's not enough for you (it sure as hell definitely enough for me personally to be deemed worthwhile enough of an upgrade from the inferior older version), people, then I can only shrug and sigh while shaking my head.
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Master_Chen: Quite honestly - I personally strongly believe that they don't even "NEED" to "test everything from scratch" to "approve" and then "update" the piece of the software that's being bundled alongside those good old games. This is because we have a case here where it's not some intermediate nightly/canary or any other unpolished and unfinished state of the application, but a STABLE complete release which was ALREADY tested thoroughly and was approved for the "outing into the wild" by creators of the said software piece themselves. In my opinion, in such of a case, GOG doesn't "have to" test anything before updating the default package in which this piece of software is being bundled. It was already tested thoroughly by original devs and it was approved as fully working by them, deemed worthy enough of a full official release. And if it somehow was unstable/broken/bad enough, original developers obviously would'nt have released it as a big stand-alone stable complete release to begin with.
They have to legally cover their own arses and cannot just take the dev team's word for it....that's how most businesses are run. Or do you think you're somehow smarter and more qualified to make such decisions than gog's testing or legal team?

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Master_Chen: 0If that's not enough for you (it sure as hell definitely enough for me personally to be deemed worthwhile enough of an upgrade from the inferior older version), people, then I can only shrug and sigh while shaking my head.
Pic related...it is you.

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Post edited November 20, 2019 by GameRager
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Master_Chen: Today I've tried to verify/repair one of my good old game's files
You own only ONE game here. You joined in April of this year.
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Master_Chen: Today I've tried to verify/repair one of my good old game's files
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Sachys: You own only ONE game here. You joined in April of this year.
Is it gwent, by any chance?
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You own only ONE game here.
Clearly a person cannot have (god forbids) more than one account anywhere. You're truly a genius and have won all of the internets.

it is you
Nah, not really, not at all. I am more like this kind of a person:
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Post edited November 21, 2019 by Master_Chen
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Master_Chen: Nah, not really, not at all. I am more like this kind of a person:
You get points for being able to laugh at yourself, if for not much else itt.
(Also points for suggesting the scummVm checkboxes in installers)
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You own only ONE game here.
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Master_Chen: Clearly a person cannot have (god forbids) more than one account anywhere. You're truly a genius and have won all of the internets.
So then why aren't you using THAT account to complain? Unless you just used an alt to complain and don't intend/want to try getting this resolved via support/proper means? ----------------------------------------
Post edited November 21, 2019 by GameRager

You own only ONE game here.
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Master_Chen: Clearly a person cannot have (god forbids) more than one account anywhere. You're truly a genius and have won all of the internets.
I don't think Sachys was making that assumption. Maybe you do have more than one account, although the idea you're posting from an alt account doesn't exactly enhance your credibility so I'm not sure what your point is.