Your disdain for my disappointment is duly noted. Disregarded entirely (much like you did with my initial disappointment), but duly noted.
I still am disappointed. Particularly in those who know better.

Note this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7jnk2mv3PU

I'm sure they're ashamed of themselves.

Yes, Americans (probably incorrectly) view liberalism as "Left", but as even somebody as TotalBiscuit said: "US has Right, and farther Right".

And as somebody who identifies as extreme Left in theory, and social democrat in practice, I do consider Islam being incompatible with something I consider "positive Western values" without considerable inner reforms, but:

1) I also consider that retarded American Christians are only slightly less dangerous than Muslims.

2) West has pretty big problems with population, which is why you kind need immigrants.

Also, stupid Sargon isn't kinda trustworthy source. I don't like ideologists of any kind.

Most American Christians, having known plenty myself, aren't nearly the rabid bible thumpers as portrayed in the media. Many of them line up more with liberal perspectives... other than the obvious religious angle.

As for Sargon he's generally been pretty solid for information... even though I disagree with many of his views.

Well my point is that it is the law in some states that you must use it to hire someone, and if you don't use it then that company can legally be held responsible. You can only go after businesses if there is a legal means to do so, and having a law like ike E-Verify would give them more power to do so and an easy way to check if a business is in compliance.

I didn't say American Christians, I said *retarded* American Christians. There is a difference. Despite being an atheist/deist/pantheist myself, I don't care about someone's religious view as long as they don't affect the public in significant way. But when you start to have significant numbers, and you can lobby for pseudoscience which is creationism, or start mass shootings in abortion clinics then it becomes a problem.

Sargon shoved himself to be be incredibly biased, which makes him untrustworthy in my not so humble opinion.

Fair enough. I've run into at least one in my lifetime.

Perhaps, but everyone has a bias and I prefer it when that bias is known opposed obfuscated by claiming to be unbiased news.

+1. Anyone with a brain should be too. The last time I looked at the odds of a terrorist attack taking place in the US it was so extreme that they needed to use exponential numbers to show it.

That's rational in America because your Muslim population is still comparably small and relatively well-integrated. The situation in parts of Europe is already rather different.
But yes, US foreign policy has become militarized to an obscene degree, won't end well imo.

Not really. USA has about 1-2% muslims.
Sweden (or Swedistan as some far right now call it) has about 1.4% muslims.
The numbers aren't the issues
Even Germany and France have only around 5% Muslims which is lower then most people think.

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/gefuehlte-wahrheit-deutsche-schaetzen-anteil-der-muslime-viel-zu-hoch-a-1125901.html

The Integration part can be an issue in some isolated Muslim communites or radical groups that make another 1% of those 5% as seen in my previous linked poll. But that doesn't apply to religion in general.
France has a problem with their poorest people regardless of Religion. It's because they built ghetto-like structures were integration was quite impossible for those who lived there.

And in Germany I have never seen a problem with integration besides the refugees who are just that and not supposed to be integrated into society.

Yeah sure, that's why hundreds of thousands of Turks in Germany voted in favour of Erdogan's constitutional referendum, and regard Erdogan as the greatest leader ever, despite his frequent threats and insults towards Europe and Germany.
Even if far right-wingers do sometimes exaggerate, this head in the sands denialism that there is no problem at all just isn't credible anymore.

Thats not denialism, it's rationalism. You on the other hand started with claiming it was a problem because of the size of muslim population in europe. That was clearly debunked and now you seem to ignore that part of your previous post and started with "whataboutism", which is btw a tool prefered by far right groups to hide flaws in their arguments (not saying you are far right, just stating that the tool is used by said groups) which makes you seem to be the one in denial here.
Voting for the referendum and being integrated or not integrated are two seperate things.

You can blame the government for allowing them to have 2 citizenships at the same time but not the turks for using the opportunity to VOTE which is a basic freedom and typical for WESTERN culture so idk where you're getting at here.

The turks here have no problem with german culture and german law. Most of them are fully integrated into society. I guess you're not living in the south because here there are no problems with turks whatsoever.
The referendum you stated has nothing to do with their opinion towards german laws or german culture, if they had a problem with those they would have moved back to Turkey.

Haha, sure, no problem at all if hundreds of thousands of Turks in Germany are supporters of a tyrant who's turning Turkey into an Islamist dictatorship and regularly makes ominous statements how he wants to see Europe being Islamized. Nothing to see here at all!
Keep telling yourself that you're "rational", I'm not going to waste any time arguing with you...if people like you ever learn, it will apparently have to be the hard way.

Why? I'm asking because I'm unfamiliar situation. But what I DO know is that in western media all sorts of left wing groups (feminists, blacklives, advocates of islam, you name it) continously accuse western governments of racism, islamophobia, etc and governments continuously make consessions by trying to satisfy all the more rediculous and extreme demands.

So why would any immigrants who have problem with western culture go into other countries (with far less commodities btw) if they can just push government and media around (which btw they couldn't do in "less tolerant" countries of their origin)?

Great idea.