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skeletonbow: Another problem to which there usually is no workaround or solution, in most games the mouse pointer is of a fixed pixel size, either 32x32px or 64x64px or similar and that is not configurable. At high resolutions this means the mouse pointer can end up so small that you can't visually find it on the screen, in particular if there is a lot of special effects and animation going on such as an ARPG with many friendlies and enemies engaged in massive magical battles, good luck finding your mouse pointer to cast a spell on a specific enemy.
There is a solution and it is called YoloMouse - if you feel that cursor is too small, YM can make it bigger.
I'd say it depends on two things:

- how far you are from your screen and how good your eyesight is/how much attention you pay to details
- how your display handles scaling

I use a smaller (17.3") 4k display viewed from fairly up close and upsampling 1080p to 4k is very noticeable since the display defaults to bilinear interpolation and there is no way for me to change this. It doesn't look as horrible as the blurry upscaling of yore, but it is ugly enough to where I wrote myself a nearest neighbour (i.e. pixel doubling/tripling, etc.) upsampling tool for games/programs at <4k resolutions. As far as non-integer scaling is concerned, 1440p -> 4k looks alright, but the blur is definitely noticeable.

I've uploaded a small comparison of close up photos here (all images are in focus, sub-pixels are visible in the raw images): https://imgur.com/a/GH1aNfp

As you can see, the difference can be quite dramatic.

If you aren't after high refresh rates or ultrawide or anything of the sort, I'd suggest 4k over 1440p (if at all possible) even if you might not want to run games at 4k; it gives you more options when it comes to upscaling lower resolutions, and even if you stick with bad image scaling, the result should look better. For graphic design work, it's definitely a big step up.
Post edited June 11, 2018 by erephine
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skeletonbow: Another problem to which there usually is no workaround or solution, in most games the mouse pointer is of a fixed pixel size, either 32x32px or 64x64px or similar and that is not configurable. At high resolutions this means the mouse pointer can end up so small that you can't visually find it on the screen, in particular if there is a lot of special effects and animation going on such as an ARPG with many friendlies and enemies engaged in massive magical battles, good luck finding your mouse pointer to cast a spell on a specific enemy.
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Lexor: There is a solution and it is called YoloMouse - if you feel that cursor is too small, YM can make it bigger.
Thanks, looks like a useful tool for some games. I did notice though that using it can get people banned from some online multiplayer games such as League of Legends for example, apparently they consider it a cheating tool or something, so people should consider that before using it with competitive online multiplayer games. I mostly play single-player though so it very well may come in handy.

Thanks again.
Thank you for your input, everyone.

After careful consideration of everything posted so far, i have reached the conclusion that im not yet ready to leave 1080p.
At least not before i have a 4K capable pc.
That being said i still want to leave my TN panel behind so i'm open to IPS/PLS suggestions that meet the following :

*1080p 16:9
*4ms response time (GtG)
*24" (anything above that would prolly be ugly due to low pixel density)
*max cost of 400 euro
Maybe look at these, all 75 Hz FreeSync.

LG 24MP59G-P

LG 24MK430H

Acer B247Y


Or maybe even this 1920 x 1200 Acer B247W. I remember some was looking for a 1920 x 1200 monitor not long ago.
I was in the same position as you two years ago. I though that a lot of content in 1080p would look very blurry in a 1440p, so I tried to buy a 27" 1080p screen. I instantly noticed it was a mistake to buy cuch a large screen in that resolution. The 1080p content lokked fine, but for everything else, everything was too big and I could notice the pixels. I asked for a refund and bought one of the same size but 1440p and with 144hz. I assure you I inmediatly understood why everyone recommends to go for this resolution. The desktop and the internet browser is much more easy to use, the games are much more beautiful and the 1080p is incredibly well scalated: I can't almost see any difference from before. Given that you also have a GTX 1070, like me, I strongly recommend you to buy a 1440p.
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ariaspi: Maybe look at these, all 75 Hz FreeSync.

LG 24MP59G-P

LG 24MK430H

Acer B247Y

Or maybe even this 1920 x 1200 Acer B247W. I remember some was looking for a 1920 x 1200 monitor not long ago.
The Acer B247Y looks fab. Except for that weird diagonal of 23.8" .I have noticed that pattern in many IPS panels and honestly i dunno how to feel about it. With some going as low as 23.5" and still being marketed as 24". My current monitor is a full 24" and i'd feel kinda cheated because its quite noticeable.
Post edited June 12, 2018 by Hikage1983
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Hikage1983: As you can see it's a 1440p screen. So i'd like to ask owners of such screens. How does 1080p content look when
upscaled to 1440p?
Is it a blurry mess or does it look ok? I dislike gaming in windowed mode so this part is important.

Thanks in advance.
Well, it depends on the internal scaler electronics. I expected to deal with unbearable shit while watching lower resolutions on my new AOC Full HD G-Sync monitor, and yet it went way better than I expected. Just to give you an idea: Diablo and Diablo II native resolutions (640x480, 800x600) works with no issues whatsoever, and the graphics is more pleasant than I ever remembered from my previous systems (I should just check on my 17" CRT to be completely sure about that)...

You know, the G-Sync module isn't just for show or for variable refresh and whatnot: the general rule of thumb is that if you have a G-Sync powered panel (be it IPS/VA or TN), than you will have a pretty solid viewing experience in gaming and elsewhere.
Post edited June 12, 2018 by KingofGnG
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KingofGnG: You know, the G-Sync module isn't just for show or for variable refresh and whatnot: the general rule of thumb is that if you have a G-Sync powered panel (be it IPS/VA or TN), than you will have a pretty solid viewing experience in gaming and elsewhere.
I play with vsync enabled for a smooth 60fps. So a Gsync monitor would be a huge waste of money for me. It would be out of my budget anyway.

Also i performed a few tests of my own and decided 1440p is not for me. I will go 2160p after i have a pc for it.
Post edited June 12, 2018 by Hikage1983
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Hikage1983: I play with vsync enabled for a smooth 60fps. So a Gsync monitor would be a huge waste of money for me. It would be out of my budget anyway.

Also i performed a few tests of my own and decided 1440p is not for me. I will go 2160p after i have a pc for it.
Absolutely not. G-Sync works in tandem with V-Sync - if you enable it in NVIDIA control panel and disable it in-game - to avoid tearing and stuttering. If you use V-Sync alone, the gaming experience can be, well, a bit shitty.

After trying it first-hand, I think G-Sync will ALWAYS be part of my monitors now and in the future :-P
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Hikage1983: The Acer B247Y looks fab. Except for that weird diagonal of 23.8" .I have noticed that pattern in many IPS panels and honestly i dunno how to feel about it. With some going as low as 23.5" and still being marketed as 24". My current monitor is a full 24" and i'd feel kinda cheated because its quite noticeable.
It's a difference of only 5 mm between 24" and 23.8" (609.6 mm to 604.52 mm). I don't see how is this noticeable on a 60 cm monitor.
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ariaspi: It's a difference of only 5 mm between 24" and 23.8" (609.6 mm to 604.52 mm). I don't see how is this noticeable on a 60 cm monitor.
It's mostly a matter of principle for me. That being said , thanks to yours and others' suggestions i have compiled a small list of monitors im gonna be testing at the shop this friday. So thanks for that. Will update thread after i come home with one of them :)
Update time:
Ended up getting https://www.samsung.com/uk/monitors/led-sf350/LS27F350FHUXEN/
Please don't judge me it was love at first sight :) . Plus i have plenty room on my desk to push it far enough.
I wish i could show you how satisfactorily it performs but suffice to say, it covers all my needs and then some.
Also the upscaler does wonders for hard coded 720p games like Caladrius Blaze and VA_11_Hall_A.

Again, i'd like to thank everyone who helped me reach a decision on this matter.