Yeah, it's always possible to get console stuff cheaper but what matters most to succeed in the long term is the price in the "big distribution" (supermarkets, etc) as it's where it's generally most sold (parents buying a console along with their weekly groceries).

Well less than a week ago the price was 399 for a pre-order in most NL stores, so it might still change.
Also I wouldn't call Amazon a 'big distribution' place for the Benelux since they don't have a local presence here AFAIK.
Something like Bol would be a better gauge IMO.

Don't forget that Bol is initially for Dutch-Flemish customers (even if they've implemented some kind of bad auto-translation). Amazon France is the way to go for Belgian French-speakers (and their parcels arrive in 1-2 days without being "premium" contrary to ordinary parcels from France).

BTW, the accessories prices listed on Bol are in the same (costly) range.

I honestly can't see why someone would get this over one of the other consoles.

Anyone know what the launch titles for this thing are?

My thoughs after the presentation:

In my opinion, the most important things are Mario, Zelda and regional lockout.

Super Mario Odyssey sounds promising - it looks like it will be like older 3D Mario games, without time limit is every stage. However, this still needs to be confirmed.

The Legend of Zelda: Breath of The Wild - guaranteed success.

Regional lockout - for Switch games, the console will be region free - that's good. However, this raises a question - what about the eShop? Will Mother/EarthBound fans finally be able to get Mother 3 (in Japanese) by creating a Japanese NNID on American/European console?

If all three things will be true, then intendo will succeed. It looks like I need to put my pessimistic scenarios away, at least for now.

The biggest obstacle (among others) will be the price. The Xbox One (is it available in Poland now?) and the PS4 are €399, while the NS will apparently be between €349.99 (France) and €329.99 (Italy). As nice as the NS hardware is, I'm rather dubious that the Switch's features and games will be enough to lure potential buyers, especially when they could just spend a little bit more and get a PS4 or XBone.

I liked how it looked like "Mario GTA" at the start of the video. :P (Honestly, the market seems like it could use a kid-friendly version of GTA like Simpson's Hit & Run, but maybe there are some out there already that I'm just not thinking of.)

The PS4 and XBone aren't portable. If you care about handheld gaming the 3DS has pretty much been the only option for years, and they are not going to make another DS with the Switch still on the market, so Switch will be the only option going forward, those people, me included, will get the Switch.

Unless of course there are no dedicated handheld games, and it's just an alternate place for console games, the same thing that tanked the PSP, and the PSVita, and why no one ever cared about the Nvidia Razer. In that case handheld gaming will just die.

From TB's discussion, I've also heard that Nintendo is also aiming for 60 fps across the board for their first party titles. If they can pull it off, that'll be pretty impressive. Not even the PS4 Pro can apparently do that for games like Last of Us Remastered at 1080p.

I think it will be a great console with wonderful games like new mario/zelda or xenoblade 2 ^_^

It's not like Nintendo are the only ones, Microsoft has always put the D-pad below the analogue stick. It's interesting you say you don't like to use the analogue stick, as (in my experience) most console games of the last 15+ years tend to use the D-pad for secondary functions rather than doubling the left analogue stick, meaning you don't have the option of using the D-pad. Having it at the top of the pad wouldn't necessarily change that.
I have to say, I do prefer the analogue sticks at the top - I find lower sticks hard to use accurately but I have no problem using a D-pad regardless of upper or lower position. In fact, I'm a bit disappointed to see that they've moved the right stick back down again (both sticks were at the top on the Wii U Pro controller, IMO the best controller since the GC).
So you were about 17 in 2000? That makes you a millenial, it's a label for people who were coming of age around then, not born around then.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennials

Wasn't that more of a Simpsons version of Crazy Taxi? Or am I thinking of the wrong game?

EDIT: Apparently I'm thinking of Road Rage.

ending birth years ranging from the mid-1990s to early 2000s. early 2000's MAKES you a TRUE MILLENNIAL not the 1980's the 1980's were TOTALLY DIFFERENT to now the kids that are 16 to 17 NOW are the TRUE MILLENIALS

I am the last of GENERATION X kid

Generation X. George Masnick, of the Harvard Joint Center for Housing Studies puts this generation in the timeframe of 1965 to 1984, in part because it's a neat 20-year period. He also calls it the "baby bust," mocking pundits on Madison Avenue and in the media" that call it Generation X. Ha ha, tough luck.

I am the LAST of generation X anyone born either ON 2000 or until 2010 ARE MILLENNIAL'S people born in the 1990's ALSO ARE NOT MILLENNIAL'S they are GENERATION Y

People born between 1950's and 1979 are GENERATION U/V/W and called BABY BOOMERS

GENERATION Z are Millennial's I am NOT and NEVER will be part of their generation they are the ENTITLEMENT generation and I have been anything BUT entitled the people born Either on or after 2010 are generation A-1 and they are THE MOST ANNOYING AND THE MOST SPOILT BRATS I have ever come across with technology now that I NEVER HAD AS A KID! and they are WORSE for it!

Whoa... What happened to all the others, did you eat them or something?

The millennial generation is currently the most popular name FOR generation Y. Try actually reading the article?

You could argue that you are late gen x rather than early gen y/millennial, I won't dispute you on that, but you're completely wrong in defining the millennial generation as starting in 2000. I was born in '88 and am definitely too late to be gen x and thus am a Millennial. "Generation Z" are sometimes called post-Millennials and fall into the age range you seem to think the term Millennial covers.

EDIT: Also ease up on the capslock. I can't help but read your post as if you were frothing at the mouth.