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Elmofongo: What are the chances they will sell a "GOTY/Ultimate edition" of this game?

They did one for DA:O, and they were gonna do it for DA2 but consumer disinterest made them stop.

But considering the Mass Effect games did not get a GOTY/Complete/Ultmate edition and the fact that this game has a multiplayer componant the chances are increadibly low.
I would assume they would rather you pay the ever unchanging price of $10 for each DLC digitally rather than sell you a complete edition that will be in a $5 sale someday. That's just a guess though.

Bethesda get such higher sales from their games they don't have to worry about penny pinching profits.
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StingingVelvet: DA2 was still a tactical RPG, just a bad one. This is not really a tactical RPG, it's an Action RPG all the way in my experience. I haven't paused or used the other characters once in 6 hours, I just stealth, backstab and do my teleport attack on everything. Maybe on the higher difficulties you'll have to use tactics, but I can't imagine wanting to do that because of the controls and combat style. These aren't designed encounters, they're forest spam like an Elder Scrolls game.

Side quests so far are all very MMO style, much worse than previous DA games. In the earlier games you had occasional MMO style stuff but most side quests had a story and dialog and such. This one is literally an NPC you walk past asking for something, no conversation mode, and you go get it. Or finding a letter that points you to treasure. Stuff like that. Every side quest is this way, not some or most, all of them so far.

However the game is far, FAR better in the exploration department. It has huge areas filled with things to find that enhance your army and such. It has a lot of Assassin's Creed style side stuff to do. They kept saying Skyrim was their big influence but it doesn't really feel like Skyrim to me. It feels like an MMO's quests and exploration along with Assassin's Creed style collecting and building.
Well, that's just sad. If I wanted to play a single player MMO, I'd just play one of the MMOs that allow you to solo almost all content like TSW. At least it has interesting quests.

I really don't understand developers sometimes; DA:O was a decent commercial success from what I've heard, but instead of refining that formula, they went in a completely different direction, probably hoping for Skyrim-style sales, except that'll never happen.

Anyway, I was hesitating about buying this, so thanks for saving me the money. I'll probably pick it up when it's on sale for $15 or so, out of curiosity if nothing else.


As an aside, I find it funny that all the people who reviewed the game before release gave the game a great score, made a big deal of how good the exploration part was, and completely failed to mention that the quest design was awful. And they wonder why gamers don't trust them...
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StingingVelvet: God the quests are all terrible, even the main ones most of the time. MMO quests through and through, what a complete waste of my time. Got my refund already. I might buy it again when it's $20 or less just for the story, but I'm not playing many games lately so maybe not.

Oh well.
Thank you! This game is going on my 'deep discount' list (if I bother at all). Not pleased about this Denuvo bullshit either. Can't find any solid info and their own info page leaves me looking askance and going "Yeah, so what are you hiding?" since they fail to actually answer any of the questions in their FAQ. Fuck, I guess I finally have to admit that I'm pretty much done with BioWare. Oh well, it was a good run.
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Coelocanth: Thank you! This game is going on my 'deep discount' list (if I bother at all). Not pleased about this Denuvo bullshit either. Can't find any solid info and their own info page leaves me looking askance and going "Yeah, so what are you hiding?" since they fail to actually answer any of the questions in their FAQ. Fuck, I guess I finally have to admit that I'm pretty much done with BioWare. Oh well, it was a good run.
From what I understand it's simply a program that runs along with the game and makes sure the .exe has not been modified in any way. I read it never connects to the internet and therefore might not be DRM depending on your definition. In any case I personally didn't have any issues with it.
My copy arrives tomorrow. I don't have high expectations, so perhaps I won't be as disappointed as some in this thread.

From the previews of the game, I thought the gameplay might be quite different where you try to take over areas and establish bases, and less about the quests. Oh well, I will see this weekend. I am still tempted to try and play through DA 1 and 2. so I can import a character.
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StingingVelvet: From what I understand it's simply a program that runs along with the game and makes sure the .exe has not been modified in any way. I read it never connects to the internet and therefore might not be DRM depending on your definition. In any case I personally didn't have any issues with it.
Yeah, I realize I'm probably overreacting on this one, but there's no other purpose for this but DRM/copy protection measures and like I said, the Denuvo website seems to be avoiding actually answering any of the faq questions better than a politician. An example:

How does it work?
The license management from Steam or Origin grants legitimate consumers access to the game and our Anti-Tamper solution ensures that these DRM systems are not bypassed.

Um, okay, but how does it work? Doesn't make me all that trusting of them.
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StingingVelvet: From what I understand it's simply a program that runs along with the game and makes sure the .exe has not been modified in any way. I read it never connects to the internet and therefore might not be DRM depending on your definition. In any case I personally didn't have any issues with it.
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Coelocanth: Yeah, I realize I'm probably overreacting on this one, but there's no other purpose for this but DRM/copy protection measures and like I said, the Denuvo website seems to be avoiding actually answering any of the faq questions better than a politician. An example:

How does it work?
The license management from Steam or Origin grants legitimate consumers access to the game and our Anti-Tamper solution ensures that these DRM systems are not bypassed.

Um, okay, but how does it work? Doesn't make me all that trusting of them.
Well, their site says they bought out Sony DADC DigitalWorks team, and that the team is responsible for "best-of-breed copy protection systems like SecuROM".

I think it's safe to say that their protection scheme in the worst case will be a rootkit. Personally, I am not too concerned.
Oh, don't even mention those guys over at the Codex. Those are the kind of guys you'd punch in the face in RL, hope they're such idiots only on those forums.
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qwixter: From the previews of the game, I thought the gameplay might be quite different where you try to take over areas and establish bases, and less about the quests. Oh well, I will see this weekend. I am still tempted to try and play through DA 1 and 2. so I can import a character.
I've read a lot more today and from what I gather the game does introduce a lot of new mechanics after where I left off. The quests are pretty boring throughout it sounds like, but later on there is garrison building and other such things that perhaps make up for that, if that's what you enjoy. It really does sound like Assassin's Creed.

As someone who wanted tactical part-based combat though, I'm still left disappointed.
Just got a phone call from my local store saying the game will be available for a midnight opening tonight (available from 12.01am) and bonus prizes for going in Dragon Age themed cosplay or 8am pickup tomorrow morning.
Given what I am reading here and on metacritic (http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/dragon-age-inquisition), I am beyond hesitant on purchasing this game. I think I will wait, and decided much later. For now, more money to GOG!
Post edited November 20, 2014 by SpringPower
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SpringPower: Given what I am reading here and on metacritic (http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/dragon-age-inquisition), I am beyond hesitant on purchasing this game. I think I will wait, and decided much later. For now, more money to GOG!
If an offline WoW appeals to you go get it. If not, don't.
Dragon Age Inquisition is quite hilarious at times, too :D

(doesn't contains spoilers, this is literally from the first area)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vobP1xGF054
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KneeTheCap: Dragon Age Inquisition is quite hilarious at times, too :D

(doesn't contains spoilers, this is literally from the first area)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vobP1xGF054
Totalbiscuit did a report on how well DA:I is ported on PC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu0XRSTRayo&list=UUy1Ms_5qBTawC-k7PVjHXKQ
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KneeTheCap: Dragon Age Inquisition is quite hilarious at times, too :D

(doesn't contains spoilers, this is literally from the first area)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vobP1xGF054
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Elmofongo: Totalbiscuit did a report on how well DA:I is ported on PC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu0XRSTRayo&list=UUy1Ms_5qBTawC-k7PVjHXKQ
It's a pretty bad sign if you call it "ported on PC" already, that usually means at the very least console-like controls, or just very messy ones