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FearfulSymmetry: Well, I'm not sure it's as simple as that, but you're absolutely right in saying it's wrong. Still, at least I made the decision not to do it anymore, and to me that counts for something. I want to be part of the change towards DRM-free games now, and I never really used to think about that when I was younger.
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Elmofongo: But even after all that I think gaming Piracy is not that big compared to piracy of other media. And Music is the worst when it comes to piracy. My goodness music is so free right and people rarely pays for CDs I have no idea why even not as popular music genres like Thrash Metal is still even making new songs
Yep, I find this sad as well. My absolute favourite artist is not signed by a publisher either (by her own choice), and produces everything herself. I think the more obscure/indie artists also deserve to make a living. I firmly believe that if you enjoy something you should pay for it. And as you said, loads of things are super cheap now.

EDIT: also, I'm totally derailing this thread. Sorry about that.
Post edited November 19, 2014 by FearfulSymmetry
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StingingVelvet: Holy crap is this game made for a controller! Mouse and keyboard controls are terrible!
That bad? I play a number of games on the controller but definitely not cRPGs (DA3 doesn't really qualify for that). Not responsive or just dumb retarded key bindings? How hard is it for them to copy and paste the kb/mouse controls from DAO?

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StingingVelvet: It's alright. It depends on what you're looking to get from it. It's not like Origins at all, it's more an action RPG focused on exploration. Quests are a lot less interesting, but the world is a lot more interesting. So it depends on what you want. Keyboard controls take some getting used to but I'm warming to them.

I might still return it, but I'm not really big into gaming right now, so don't take that as a massive attack on the game. It's okay. It might even be great depending on what you want from it.
That's not surprising considering combat looks exactly the same flashy, action-packed rubbish that is DA2. But is it still actiony on Hard or Nightmare difficulty? Because as crappy as DA2's combat was, you still had to pause quite alot on Nightmare which is the only thing it resembled true RTwP RPGs since DA2's enemies all came in waves and are more or less similar, you used the same single or dual tactic for the entire game.

So I take it that the quests are all fetch and kill, standard MMO-flair with no depth in them quests?
Post edited November 19, 2014 by cw8
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cw8: That's not surprising considering combat looks exactly the same flashy, action-packed rubbish that is DA2. But is it still actiony on Hard or Nightmare difficulty? Because as crappy as DA2's combat was, you still had to pause quite alot on Nightmare which is the only thing it resembled true RTwP RPGs since DA2's enemies all came in waves and are more or less similar, you used the same single or dual tactic for the entire game.

So I take it that the quests are all fetch and kill, standard MMO-flair with no depth in them quests?
DA2 was still a tactical RPG, just a bad one. This is not really a tactical RPG, it's an Action RPG all the way in my experience. I haven't paused or used the other characters once in 6 hours, I just stealth, backstab and do my teleport attack on everything. Maybe on the higher difficulties you'll have to use tactics, but I can't imagine wanting to do that because of the controls and combat style. These aren't designed encounters, they're forest spam like an Elder Scrolls game.

Side quests so far are all very MMO style, much worse than previous DA games. In the earlier games you had occasional MMO style stuff but most side quests had a story and dialog and such. This one is literally an NPC you walk past asking for something, no conversation mode, and you go get it. Or finding a letter that points you to treasure. Stuff like that. Every side quest is this way, not some or most, all of them so far.

However the game is far, FAR better in the exploration department. It has huge areas filled with things to find that enhance your army and such. It has a lot of Assassin's Creed style side stuff to do. They kept saying Skyrim was their big influence but it doesn't really feel like Skyrim to me. It feels like an MMO's quests and exploration along with Assassin's Creed style collecting and building.
God the quests are all terrible, even the main ones most of the time. MMO quests through and through, what a complete waste of my time. Got my refund already. I might buy it again when it's $20 or less just for the story, but I'm not playing many games lately so maybe not.

Oh well.
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StingingVelvet: God the quests are all terrible, even the main ones most of the time. MMO quests through and through, what a complete waste of my time. Got my refund already. I might buy it again when it's $20 or less just for the story, but I'm not playing many games lately so maybe not.

Oh well.
Damning. Saw your post over at Codex. Saw the other posts at Codex. Lost most of my interest.
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cw8: Damning. Saw your post over at Codex. Saw the other posts at Codex. Lost most of my interest.
I don't post at the Codex. What's the Codex? I have no idea what you're talking about. *hides*
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StingingVelvet: God the quests are all terrible, even the main ones most of the time. MMO quests through and through, what a complete waste of my time. Got my refund already. I might buy it again when it's $20 or less just for the story, but I'm not playing many games lately so maybe not.

Oh well.
Have you fought a Dragon yet before you gave up?
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Elmofongo: Here is a much better Gameplay Video than what I originally posted in my OP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=381Di8Cw0-I

Edit: to anyone who does not have a youtube account

http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/07/10/dragon-age-inquisition-e3-video-emerges-with-16-minutes-of-gameplay/
For the first link, I get a clip about a movie, and for the second, as it's about to start my screen gets taken over by some stupid ad. Man I hate that! :-)
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Zurvan7: So is the game any good? Are the characters and dialogues as memorable as Origins or is this another false marketing campaign like DA2 which was my last Bio/EA title...

God knows what a disappointment and flat out lie DA2 was.
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StingingVelvet: It's alright. It depends on what you're looking to get from it. It's not like Origins at all, it's more an action RPG focused on exploration. Quests are a lot less interesting, but the world is a lot more interesting. So it depends on what you want. Keyboard controls take some getting used to but I'm warming to them.

I might still return it, but I'm not really big into gaming right now, so don't take that as a massive attack on the game. It's okay. It might even be great depending on what you want from it.
Oh well it's probably nothing for me ten. I'm one of those people who play games for their story and reading mainly. (like Wasteland 2). DA:O had great dialogues and DA3 seems to compete with skyrim and I was bored with that game after 20h of gameplay. I don't like games where you ave to explore this and that. I rather see dialogues and mini quests like Kingdoms of amalur.
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cw8: Damning. Saw your post over at Codex. Saw the other posts at Codex. Lost most of my interest.
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StingingVelvet: I don't post at the Codex. What's the Codex? I have no idea what you're talking about. *hides*
Pretty funny though, another one on the Codex asked for a refund (I'm pretty sure RK47 is a fellow countryman):
http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/the-dragon-age-inquisition-thread-ride-the-bull.75304/page-376
Pramod Kumar ftw.

U guys saved me a good many pennies.
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cw8:
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StingingVelvet: However the game is far, FAR better in the exploration department. It has huge areas filled with things to find that enhance your army and such. It has a lot of Assassin's Creed style side stuff to do. They kept saying Skyrim was their big influence but it doesn't really feel like Skyrim to me. It feels like an MMO's quests and exploration along with Assassin's Creed style collecting and building.
Typical RPGCodex responese to that statement:

http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/the-dragon-age-inquisition-thread-ride-the-bull.75304/page-369#post-3602401
I tried the game and had to claim a Refund. The game would crash when entering a cutscene or the inventory. This has been the first time in a decade that I had a new game that I meet the System Requirements be so unplayable. Really can't say much but getting the Refund was painless. I might have fidgeted more to get things stable but I messed with lowering the graphics and disabling Origin in the game and it helped but still the game would randomly crash when I went into a menu or a cutscene, that's unacceptable.
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roninnogitsune: I tried the game and had to claim a Refund. The game would crash when entering a cutscene or the inventory. This has been the first time in a decade that I had a new game that I meet the System Requirements be so unplayable. Really can't say much but getting the Refund was painless. I might have fidgeted more to get things stable but I messed with lowering the graphics and disabling Origin in the game and it helped but still the game would randomly crash when I went into a menu or a cutscene, that's unacceptable.
Rule #1 in gaming these days:

Never ever buy a game at launch unless you are 100% informed that it is free of any sort of technical issues.

Nintendo are kings at this very rarely do they ever release a game with crippling technicle issues.
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cw8: U guys saved me a good many pennies.
Happy to do so.

If you're a big fan of the original like me it might be worth a sale purchase someday, but unless you want an offline MMO busywork game it's not worth anything near launch day price.
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cw8: U guys saved me a good many pennies.
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StingingVelvet: Happy to do so.

If you're a big fan of the original like me it might be worth a sale purchase someday, but unless you want an offline MMO busywork game it's not worth anything near launch day price.
What are the chances they will sell a "GOTY/Ultimate edition" of this game?

They did one for DA:O, and they were gonna do it for DA2 but consumer disinterest made them stop.

But considering the Mass Effect games did not get a GOTY/Complete/Ultmate edition and the fact that this game has a multiplayer componant the chances are increadibly low.