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DOSbox is an emulator and you'll be running it through Windows anyway. Doesn't have anything to do with how you set up your HDDs. I don't understand why we're suddenly talking about DOS and floppies. Are you going to equip your PC with a floppy disk drive? GOG games should run just fine.
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ashwald: DOSbox is an emulator and you'll be running it through Windows anyway. Doesn't have anything to do with how you set up your HDDs. I don't understand why we're suddenly talking about DOS and floppies. Are you going to equip your PC with a floppy disk drive? GOG games should run just fine.
Can't say I plan on using a floppy drive, I haven't used one of those since my family owned an Apple II e years ago, lol. Just thought i'd ask and make sure.

Well guys, I probably won't be able to put together my PC until Wednesday because it's going to storm and rain Monday and Tuesday. I just hope UPS doesn't soak my PC parts in the rain while delivering them Monday.
Post edited September 16, 2012 by haydenaurion
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Snickersnack: DOS doesn't support AHCI. You'll have to run off floppies. Not cool dude.
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haydenaurion: Does that mean GOG games using DOSbox wouldn't run?
AHCI is only a problem for running old operating systems. DOSbox will run fine.
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haydenaurion: I see. I thought I had read somewhere about not using a new BIOS unless necessary but I wanted to double check.
Quite often new BIOS versions come when they add support for new components (CPUs etc.) in them. But there may be real fixes too, or adding some nice new features. So, you could first try if all components get detected by BIOS, and only if there are problems with that, check whether a BIOS update would help.

The companies warn about updating firmwares unnecessarily, because it is indeed theoretically possible you'll brick your piece of hardware in the process, and you can't fix it yourself anymore (unless you have a JTAG programmer device or something :)).

But that is theoretically, e.g. if your power goes out just as you are performing the update, that would corrupt the BIOS bank as it was not finished properly. But even then, I think there are always two banks, active and backup. The process usually goes so that the backup (inactive) bank is updated, and only if it is successful, it will be activated, ie. the current (old) active bank becomes the inactive backup bank, and the updated backup bank becomes the new active one. And if there is some problem with the updated active bank anyway, usually the backup bank is switched back to active automatically.

So there are several measures to try to make sure everything goes smoothly. But since it is still theoretically possible to break a piece of hardware with an embedded software update, the companies naturally don't want you to do it unless really necessary.

I've done e.g. BIOS updates on several PCs many times, never failing so far. Not to mention that when people update their smatphone OSes, that is also basically a firmware (embedded software) update, yet we don't see people having lots of bricked smartphones. Just follow the instructions.
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timppu: Quite often new BIOS versions come when they add support for new components (CPUs etc.) in them. But there may be real fixes too, or adding some nice new features. So, you could first try if all components get detected by BIOS, and only if there are problems with that, check whether a BIOS update would help.

The companies warn about updating firmwares unnecessarily, because it is indeed theoretically possible you'll brick your piece of hardware in the process, and you can't fix it yourself anymore (unless you have a JTAG programmer device or something :)).

But that is theoretically, e.g. if your power goes out just as you are performing the update, that would corrupt the BIOS bank as it was not finished properly. But even then, I think there are always two banks, active and backup. The process usually goes so that the backup (inactive) bank is updated, and only if it is successful, it will be activated, ie. the current (old) active bank becomes the inactive backup bank, and the updated backup bank becomes the new active one. And if there is some problem with the updated active bank anyway, usually the backup bank is switched back to active automatically.

So there are several measures to try to make sure everything goes smoothly. But since it is still theoretically possible to break a piece of hardware with an embedded software update, the companies naturally don't want you to do it unless really necessary.

I've done e.g. BIOS updates on several PCs many times, never failing so far. Not to mention that when people update their smatphone OSes, that is also basically a firmware (embedded software) update, yet we don't see people having lots of bricked smartphones. Just follow the instructions.
Which is why i'm going to have to wait until Wednesday when the bad weather will be gone. Thanks for the tips.
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ashwald: DOSbox is an emulator and you'll be running it through Windows anyway. Doesn't have anything to do with how you set up your HDDs. I don't understand why we're suddenly talking about DOS and floppies. Are you going to equip your PC with a floppy disk drive? GOG games should run just fine.
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haydenaurion: Can't say I plan on using a floppy drive, I haven't used one of those since my family owned an Apple II e years ago, lol. Just thought i'd ask and make sure.

Well guys, I probably won't be able to put together my PC until Wednesday because it's going to storm and rain Monday and Tuesday. I just hope UPS doesn't soak my PC parts in the rain while delivering them Monday.
I have a USB floppy drive that I use to make disk images out of disks, but at this point, unless you already have disks, it's not worth getting one. Even when I do use it, I often have trouble getting the disks to read at all or completely due to age.

My recommendation is that anybody with a drawer full of floppies to immediately dump them to HDD back them up and destroy the original floppies before they become completely unreadable.

But, in your case, it sounds like you don't have any floppies, so I wouldn't recommend buying a drive unless you intend on taking your chances with second hand floppy disk based games.
Windows Update and security software (minimal firewall and anti-virus) first, everything else later.

You should check your GPU's BIOS version. If it's F1, F2 or F3 you might want to update to F4. If it's F10 or F11 you might want to update to F12. The older versions work fine for some, but cause crashes for others. This is due to the way the overclocked memory is addressed.
See techpowerup.com amongst others.
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haydenaurion: This is in regard to my upcoming PC build, I have the following hardware which I assume will need updated BIOS, Drivers and such:

GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge

GIGABYTE GV-N670OC-2GD

LG DVD Burner GH24NS90 - OEM

Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB

Are there any BIOS, Driver or Firmware issues I should know about with these? Like are there certain BIOS, Drivers and such I shouldn't use? Also, I assume I need a USB Flash Drive for the BIOS. I have a 2GB, a high speed 8GB and a high speed 16GB made by SanDisk, will those do?
Simple advice, only flash your motherboard bios if you really have to. It's a fairly new board, so you might not have to at all.. Most of the devices that you listed don't really need a update, such as your hard drive, ram, DVD burner and your processor.
Post edited September 17, 2012 by oldschool
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HertogJan: Windows Update and security software (minimal firewall and anti-virus) first, everything else later.

You should check your GPU's BIOS version. If it's F1, F2 or F3 you might want to update to F4. If it's F10 or F11 you might want to update to F12. The older versions work fine for some, but cause crashes for others. This is due to the way the overclocked memory is addressed.
See techpowerup.com amongst others.
Well that's just great, I may have to mess with BIOS for the GPU which may screw up my card and probably isn't covered under the warranty if it does screw it up. On top of that some of the cards may be faulty regardless of BIOS. This just got more difficult.
It might work, it might not work.
No idea what Gigabyte's return policy is, you might want to check that first.
As for me, I have similar issues with the ASUS GTX670-DC2T-2GD5 which is currently not being supplied by Asus to its retailers. I ordered it in a pc based upon several good reviews, to find out later it breaks a lot after about 3 months. Unfortunately it seems to be the best it in the GTX 670 series. This Gigabyte being 2nd.
I'm thinking about replacing it in my order for this Gigabyte card. If that card causes crashes because of a bad BIOS, I'm pretty sure that's considered a faulty product under consumer laws here. Meaning I'm entitled a replacement copy. To prevent such issues all to gether I'm hoping the shop I ordered it is willing to do the BIOS update for me.
Your best bet would be to check Gigabyte's policy on this issue before you update the BIOS.
Seems I'm lucky. I just talked to the store I ordered the pc from. They're going to do the GPU BIOS upgrade for me at no extra charge.