It seems that you're using an outdated browser. Some things may not work as they should (or don't work at all).
We suggest you upgrade newer and better browser like: Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer or Opera

×
avatar
Thiev: I was under impression it was that bad because was pushed out before Christmas.
It was. And for that reason.
avatar
Thiev: I remember playing DK2 and couldn't 'connect' with it. I liked the first one much better. Did I miss something and should give it another chance?
Well, I too prefer DK1 over DK2, but I've learned to appreciate DK2 a lot more than I did at first.
Trilogies are good because you can tell a very big story with them. As long as your second game is good then your final part will be a massive hit. Also finishing a story doesn't finish the setting. Bioware already said there would be more Mass Effect games in the future just that Shepard's story will be finished. Bungie already went past the Halo trilogy with Halo: Reach.
avatar
nondeplumage: KotOR 2 told a far superior and better presented story than KotOR 1. If they'd just let them finish the damn thing should be the rallying cry, not forget about it.
From the same starting point, we reach different conclusions. They key words here are "if they'd just let them finish". Well, they didn't. They knowingly sold their customers an unfinished, broken game, and then promptly ignored it for all time. And these are the people you'd place your hopes for a decent third installment on? No, thank you.

Could KotOR 2 have been brilliant? Certainly. Was it? No, not by a long shot. Were the people responsible for the game's utter failure the same people who would have absolute control over a potential third installment? Yes, indeed.

Let it lie, I say.
avatar
Wishbone: snip
What I'm saying is, even the unfinished mess that it is, it presents a better and better presented story than KoTOR 1, and KoTOR 1 is my favorite CRPG. It is awesome and it sucks; it is managing to be in two places at once, and occupying the same space twice, because fuck Einstein.

I need to try it with the restoration mod and see how much better it actually makes the gameplay.

Does Aliens Vs. Predator count as a trilogy? The two POV computer games and the sidescrolling brawler? Or were there more than just those?
avatar
Thiev: Where is my KotOR 3 then? D:
avatar
Wishbone: Screw KotOR. After the train wreck that was KotOR 2, letting it die quietly was about the only merciful option for all involved.
I must say I do agree that Bioware really dropped the ball on that one. I could've forgiven them if they finished the game properly and released the formerly cut content as an expansion pack (why they didn't is beyond me, considering most was at least half-finished already and there would've been a good bit of money in it for them). In its current state, however, letting it die was indeed best for all involved.
avatar
Wishbone: snip
avatar
nondeplumage: What I'm saying is, even the unfinished mess that it is, it presents a better and better presented story than KoTOR 1, and KoTOR 1 is my favorite CRPG. It is awesome and it sucks; it is managing to be in two places at once, and occupying the same space twice, because fuck Einstein.

I need to try it with the restoration mod and see how much better it actually makes the gameplay.

Does Aliens Vs. Predator count as a trilogy? The two POV computer games and the sidescrolling brawler? Or were there more than just those?
Three FPS, at least 1 sidescrolling arcade game, and an RTS.
avatar
Hesusio: I must say I do agree that Bioware really dropped the ball on that one. I could've forgiven them if they finished the game properly and released the formerly cut content as an expansion pack (why they didn't is beyond me, considering most was at least half-finished already and there would've been a good bit of money in it for them). In its current state, however, letting it die was indeed best for all involved.
You mean Obsidian, they mate Kotor2. Also it was Lucasarts who decided to move forward the launch date and ship what they knew was a broken game.
avatar
Taleroth: Three FPS, at least 1 sidescrolling arcade game, and an RTS.
I thought everyone on the planet had agreed never to mention that horrid console RTS again?
Post edited June 01, 2011 by Delixe
avatar
Taleroth: Three FPS, at least 1 sidescrolling arcade game, and an RTS.
An AvP RTS? How did I miss this?!
avatar
Delixe: I thought everyone on the planet had agreed never to mention that horrid console RTS again?
I forget to check my junk filter for planet-wide memos.
avatar
Delixe: I thought everyone on the planet had agreed never to mention that horrid console RTS again?
Oh. A terrible RTS. I must go watch Batman vs. Predators again to feel better now.
avatar
nondeplumage: I need to try it with the restoration mod and see how much better it actually makes the gameplay.
The improvement is there, but it's not anywhere near as drastic as you'd think. When I finished it, I was left disappointed that there wasn't more content(gameplay or story) involved. It's still definitely a better way to play, but it's not the return of a full, rich ending and cleaned-up gameplay that I thought it would be going in.

But hey, KOTOR sold way more and is critically more acclaimed than KOTOR II. If you like KOTOR II, you're nothing but a video game hipster and a story snob.
avatar
RatherDashing: But hey, KOTOR sold way more and is critically more acclaimed than KOTOR II. If you like KOTOR II, you're nothing but a video game hipster and a story snob.
avatar
nondeplumage: ...and KoTOR 1 is my favorite CRPG.
Trolls aren't that great when it comes to homework, but really, not even reading the thread first?
avatar
RatherDashing: If you like KOTOR II, you're nothing but a video game hipster and a story snob.
Appreciating a good story is considered being a story snob? Sorry but a lot of us have a love of the way Obsidian write their games and KOTOR2 could and should have been a much better game than KOTOR. It was only Lucasarts' greed that crippled the game. I'm sure give the sales of KOTOR2 if Lucasarts had the option they would go back in time and change that decision.
Post edited June 01, 2011 by Delixe
avatar
Hesusio: I must say I do agree that Bioware really dropped the ball on that one. I could've forgiven them if they finished the game properly and released the formerly cut content as an expansion pack (why they didn't is beyond me, considering most was at least half-finished already and there would've been a good bit of money in it for them). In its current state, however, letting it die was indeed best for all involved.
avatar
Delixe: You mean Obsidian, they mate Kotor2. Also it was Lucasarts who decided to move forward the launch date and ship what they knew was a broken game.
Indeed it was Obsidian. It's 8am and I've been up all night so I'm not exactly on top of my game right now. Still, I'm sure we can all agree that whoever is responsible for not even trying to put out an expansion pack is a royal bellend.
avatar
nondeplumage: Trolls aren't that great when it comes to homework, but really, not even reading the thread first?
I read that just fine, thanks. And if I'm a troll, hey, you're a troll too.