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lukaszthegreat: I think starfleet is the only choice where you dont have to eat shit be mowed down in seconds or live in constant fear.
Welcome aboard, cadet. Here's your red shirt.
These guys might be fun. :D
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tinyE: These guys might be fun. :D
True amateur guerrilas with properly customized technical i see :)
I honestly can't think of one military I would join from non-fiction.

I would have fought the Nazis in real life though!
Militaires Sans Frontière !
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StingingVelvet: I honestly can't think of one military I would join from non-fiction.

I would have fought the Nazis in real life though!
In that regard the French Underground would have been good but I don't honestly know if I would even begin to have the courage they did (ditto for the Polish Underground). I actually lay in bed at night sometimes thinking about things like that and if I could hold my own under those circumstances.
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Senteria: None, because in wars the nobodies always die and the hero's win. In a fictional war, I'd be a nobody.
Why's that?! In a fictional war you could be any-fuckin-one you wanna be :D

That said, Fremen for the win! :P
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Magnitus: Is there a fictional military where wars are fought via proxy with remotely operated robots and nobody dies? Then, maybe that one as a remote pilot. Otherwise, forget it.
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iippo: Well, you know if thats the requirement you could just become U.S. drone pilot.
It's 50% there. The pilot is safe, but the targets are still actual people. I'm bothered both by the possibility of getting killed and killing other people.

Don't get me wrong, if there was a menacing intruder in my home, I'd run for that long relatively thin kitchen knife and the only dilemma would be where to drive the knife in to do the most damage, but to go from that place of desperation and actually make a conscious decision to do that for a living...

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timppu: I think they had an army like that in the movie "Surrogates".

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0986263/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

Then again, the whole point of the movie was that someone found out how to kill the operators through the robots (something that obviously should have been impossible), so...
I think that's far fetched. More problematic would be to ensure that the signal is not interruptible (ie, they jam the signal between the pilots and their drone and the entire fleet collapses in mid-air) and that the drones can't be hacked.

Can you imagine a clever mathematician, or worse, a clever mathematician working for a rogue state, figuring out how to hijack a country's entire army of drones?
Post edited October 06, 2013 by Magnitus
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StingingVelvet: I honestly can't think of one military I would join from non-fiction.

I would have fought the Nazis in real life though!
...most of "the nazi" were just common people though - quite same as the opposition really. And closer to the end of war they were pretty much 14+ kids or old men as the young and middle aged men started to "run out".

Anyways, I bet that would have been hardly as heroic as fighting in some fictional army.
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iippo: ...most of "the nazi" were just common people though - quite same as the opposition really. And closer to the end of war they were pretty much 14+ kids or old men as the young and middle aged men started to "run out".
Whatever their demographics they had to be stopped, so I don't see your point.
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iippo: ...most of "the nazi" were just common people though - quite same as the opposition really. And closer to the end of war they were pretty much 14+ kids or old men as the young and middle aged men started to "run out".
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StingingVelvet: Whatever their demographics they had to be stopped, so I don't see your point.
the point being that wehrmacht soldiers were ordinary people like soldiers from every single other country now and then?

The main difference was that some were lead by Hitler, some by Stalin etc.. You think the ordinary german soldier were asked whether they wanted to join the army and invade some other country? Or like if some russian farmer beyond Ural was actually interested in coming to die the cold winter of Finnish Winterwar?

Less Hollywood to you then.
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iippo: the point being that wehrmacht soldiers were ordinary people like soldiers from every single other country now and then?

The main difference was that some were lead by Hitler, some by Stalin etc.. You think the ordinary german soldier were asked whether they wanted to join the army and invade some other country? Or like if some russian farmer beyond Ural was actually interested in coming to die the cold winter of Finnish Winterwar?

Less Hollywood to you then.
Please don't assume I am ignorant. The motivations of individual soldiers is a grey area, sure, but they were collectively doing horrible things that needed to be stopped. Nothing changes that.
Militaires Sans Frontières.
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iippo: the point being that wehrmacht soldiers were ordinary people like soldiers from every single other country now and then?

The main difference was that some were lead by Hitler, some by Stalin etc.. You think the ordinary german soldier were asked whether they wanted to join the army and invade some other country? Or like if some russian farmer beyond Ural was actually interested in coming to die the cold winter of Finnish Winterwar?

Less Hollywood to you then.
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StingingVelvet: Please don't assume I am ignorant. The motivations of individual soldiers is a grey area, sure, but they were collectively doing horrible things that needed to be stopped. Nothing changes that.
You fight in that country's army, to which youre born. I have yet to hear of anyone claiming that they were ask to which country they wish to born. It is healthy to ponder on this implications.

Ill leave it at this, as i know continuing wouldnt be in anyone's benefit.
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StingingVelvet: Please don't assume I am ignorant. The motivations of individual soldiers is a grey area, sure, but they were collectively doing horrible things that needed to be stopped. Nothing changes that.
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iippo: You fight in that country's army, to which youre born. I have yet to hear of anyone claiming that they were ask to which country they wish to born. It is healthy to ponder on this implications.

Ill leave it at this, as i know continuing wouldnt be in anyone's benefit.
I think a lot enters into it, but in the end, war crimes are war crimes.

From my perspective with a service background, conscience and judgement are key elements of being a soldier, no matter what. I can't speak for the cultural context experienced by German soldiers at that time, though.
Post edited October 07, 2013 by Primate