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McFly808: I don't see a persistent automap anywhere in screens for Eye of the Beholder, Stonekeep, and Lands of Lore. Since Eye of the Beholder is legally(??) free as abandonware, I think I'll make that my first one.
Not legally, there is no "abandonware" legal term, it is just a way to denote a game that is no longer sold or supported.

Lands of Lore has an auto-map. Not played Stonekeep yet, but at least the first Eye of the Beholder does not have one.

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AFnord: I don't think the first two Might & Magic games had auto-mapping, but they might also be poorly suited as beginners dungeon crawlers.
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PetrusOctavianus: MM2 had automap, MM1 not.
Ah, thanks for clearing that up.

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McFly808: Well, Eye of the Beholder is too old to run on this PC anyhow. So, it's down to Grimrock, Stonekeep, or Lands of Lore. I'm tempted to go with Grimrock because as someone said, things only get better from what I can see. :)
Nothing is too old with Dosbox! Eye of the Beholder runs flawlessly in dosbox.
Post edited September 10, 2012 by AFnord
Even if the game has an automap, you don't necessarily have to use it. In the Ultima Underworld games, for example, you can just toss away the map (it's an inventory object) and thereafter forget about it.

(That said, I'd recommend using automapping in freeform-movement games like UW because they're very difficult to map out by hand, especially considering that the levels may be 3D.)
Well after reading this thread, here's a few more I want to play that I can add to my list:

Dungeon Hack
Stonekeep
Arx Fatalis
Legend of Grimrock - Then work through all others
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Lou: Legend of Grimrock - Then work through all others
This. LoG can stand only if you never played the others.
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Lou: Legend of Grimrock - Then work through all others
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Bodkin: This. LoG can stand only if you never played the others.
Why is that people say this? Is this game that bad or something? I have bought it but didn't have time to play it yet, so I'm curious.
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Bodkin: This. LoG can stand only if you never played the others.
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WTF: Why is that people say this? Is this game that bad or something? I have bought it but didn't have time to play it yet, so I'm curious.
It's not bad, it's ok. It's just Dungeon Master clone with XP system (I hate it, old DM system wasn't perfect but it was better choice) with nothing really new. I'd love, if they clone Wizardry or Realms of Arkania :) Well, maybe it will be their next step.
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McFly808: Well, Eye of the Beholder is too old to run on this PC anyhow. So, it's down to Grimrock, Stonekeep, or Lands of Lore. I'm tempted to go with Grimrock because as someone said, things only get better from what I can see. :)
What do you mean "too old", you do know what DOSBox is right? Stonekeep runs on it too.
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WTF: Why is that people say this? Is this game that bad or something? I have bought it but didn't have time to play it yet, so I'm curious.
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Bodkin: It's not bad, it's ok. It's just Dungeon Master clone with XP system (I hate it, old DM system wasn't perfect but it was better choice) with nothing really new. I'd love, if they clone Wizardry or Realms of Arkania :) Well, maybe it will be their next step.
I have to disagree as I am having a blast playing this game (LoG) right now. My first thoughts were - Finally an EOB like dungeon crawl that I really enjoy. This is my first play through and I am on the hard difficulty and it has been a blast except for the "Spiders" - I have always hated spiders and my hate has been re-enforced. I can't wait for the editor to come out which will make for the real fun to begin.