But then again, the first episode of Doom 1 ended with the Phobos Anomaly, the anomaly being a corrupted teleporter.

But of course, not much is said specifically in the story of Doom so it is up to everyone to fill in the blanks.

Has anyone seen Doom Eternal in 3rd person? xD
It's this bitty model running around like a 00s intern animation

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BREATH

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*thump*



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(yeh it's better than I could do...beat you to it)

This is definitely a thing in some other series, but this one is more complicated. It's more that after hearing all the praise for the new mechanics in 2016... the ammo and health being tied to combat, causing a "rhythm"... they went way overboard with those ideas. "People like having to get ammo from killing, so let's make you have very little ammo at all times so you have to do it more!" That's just one example, but that kind of design philosophy permeates the whole game. I remarked elsewhere they went "up their own ass" with it, and I think this is a case where that colorful metaphor is very well used.

A lot of people hated those mechanics in 2016, and they will looooathe this game. I thought they were okay then, but are now waaaaay overdone, making the game much less enjoyable but still okay. 6-7 out of 10, basically.

Ammo was limited in Doom 2016 too until you got about 2 ammo upgrades. After that it was manageable/you could shoot most things to death without ever being forced to use the chainsaw. But the part before the first argent cell where all you have is a pistol and a shotgun with 20 shells is pretty annoying. Each ammo upgrade is pretty huge though. You go from 20 to 30 shells, 90 AR bullets to 120 etc.

I've seen that you can upgrade ammo capacity in Eternal too. Are the upgrades too low impact to improve the situation?

You start with 16 shotgun shells and after max upgrades have 24. This is much lower than 2016, to my memory. Also there are only 2-3 ammo types and multiple guns use each one, further limiting how much you have.

Seriously? OK, that IS bad then. I thought that it might get better with upgrades but obviously not.

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*wheeze*
*thump thump*

Didn't original doom have limited ammo types shared by guns as well(albeit with higher ammo limits)? I believe it did.

I agree the limits are very bleh, though.

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It's just some other user's alt account and/or someone trolling...they have been posting such posts in a bunch of threads.

I honestly don't remember, but I don't think it would be an issue if it weren't for the ammo counts being so low. When you only have 24 shots with the shotgun for example, you basically just use one version and mode (like the double-barrel, or stick bombs, or whatever) because you're out of ammo before you even switch. It's frustrating because some of the gun variants have drastically different uses, like the scope on the rifle versus the mini-gun.

Though if you constantly chainsaw for more ammo this isn't such a concern, which is what the developers want you to do. I just hate doing it that much.

Fair enough.....I love chainsawing though, plus it kills some enemies quickly(I save it for the bigger ones mostly), so thankfully it's not too bad for me.....I can see how it wouldn't be that way for some, though..

Doom 1-2:-
Bullets = Pistol & Minigun. Max 200 (400 backpack)
Shells = Shotgun & Super-Shotgun. Max 50 (100 backpack)
Rockets = Rocket Launcher. Max 50 (100 backpack)
Cells = Plasma Launcher & BFG 9000. Max 300 (600 backpack)

If they water down Doom anymore, the next Doom game will involve ammo caps of 5 shells / 10 bullets, the chainsaw will be replaced with a walking frame and all maps will be indoors (so a small gust of wind doesn't blow Doomguy over...)

Thanks for the info.

Watered down? How so? Imo it's going back to it's kill or be killed, tough as balls roots(albeit with some changes...good AND bad).